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Why you left
Alright, seriously Anno, this has gotten way out of hand. Please, tell me why you left the DR Wiki and tell me why you started this one. Give us closure, and you won't ever hear us talking about this again. Just tell us why you left, I am asking you politely. The Yoshiman 97 00:42, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Soo... is there a truce between both wikis? If you don't respond to this, I will have to assume your answer is a yes. The Yoshiman 97 22:35, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then... I think after Sarah told us all to stop acting inappropriately, we have a truce now, right? I'll be sure to let other users know about the other DR wiki and let them choose which one they want to edit. And if you do ban me again, please give a good reason, since the last time you banned me, it was because of personal attacks, which I did none of. So, thanks, I'll be letting others know of the other DR wiki, and God bless. The Yoshiman 97 17:24, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
Thanks very much for those dead Jo pics (and the armed woman)! Even nicer that you managed to get a pics with each hostage in it :) --Mistertrouble189 20:57, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know the screen cap requests may be overwhelming (at least most are done) but I wasn't sure if you uploaded the pic(s) of the female motorist (you said Wednesday?) --Mistertrouble189 06:55, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, Give me twenty minutes. Anno1404 06:58, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gracias, and that Talkback template is pretty cool :) I've had that problem in the past on other wikis where a user would respond to me on his/her page instead of mine OR on another user's talk page where I made a comment/question. --Mistertrouble189 07:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Starting now. Anno1404 07:31, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and what did you mean about the street name? It's Forest Avenue or Sycamore? --Mistertrouble189 17:06, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * So I played the helicopter ride scene a few more times to view any readable street signs (couldn't really, but I left a request on the screen cap page, maybe you could take a shot and edit it so the words show up? dunno). I've come to a conclusion that Sycamore Street is the main street, as there are more than 1 sign indentifying the street as Sycamore (at traffic intersections, etc) and maybe Forest Avenue is supposed to be the upcoming street (the street where the bus is at) since there was an arrow in that direction above the Forest Avenue sign? It's possible! --Mistertrouble189 19:25, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, that's a nice find..impressive. I don't know how to add buttons to the toolbar...yes gallery would be nice. Tis annoying to type out the code every time I make a gallery. The image of the woman was screen capped from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-i-ZxPIqpY and then I made it lighter on Photobucket (too light..) & alright, I'll send a friendly reminder every few days about the requests, don't want to come off as demanding >:-) --Mistertrouble189 18:00, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
thanks for the suggestion anno :) but that seems pretty damn retarted, also, do you still have your other DR wiki, can you unban me from it :D

Public
I know talk pages are public! :D silly. i hope! ciwey read it! I hope he knows that i think he's just a little creep. and you know what else i hope. i hope everyone at this wiki will just get off my case im tired of someone every other few weeks coming to this wiki and making me mad...and im tired i being banned. so is your other wiki still online? id like to check it out :D

.......
Oh my god.......Your right.......I won't be on for awhile....bye......

Edit bar
Hm, I copied & pasted what you said, saved it, then tried editing a page, but the new buttons didn't show up. What am I doing wrong :( And yea, I've always wanted the multiple uploads to be a part of the toolbox so your guidance on that would be appreciated. --Mistertrouble189 19:50, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
Ah, I didn't notice the Goose one. Could I have those two, Scallop's (I think I put in a request for the Scallop's billboard on the main street too) and the Hickory's when you get it? Thought it'd be nice to add to North Plaza. And you didn't know about the survivors committing suicide? I've noticed a few of those..it happened to me with Yuu, Kindell and Aaron. --Mistertrouble189 22:38, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Suicide
I don't get it. Do you have to leave the area? Gordon did not commit suicide, he became undead. What should I do differently? I let the zombies eat him and no suicide. Anno1404 22:48, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know the exact requirements, maybe it's by chance. I remember the three situations with Aaron, Yuu, Kindell. Aaron: first time playing the game, went to the hallway in EP leading to security room. Bad idea, got overwhelmed by a lot of zombies, which causes Aaron to pull out a gun and shoot himself. Kindell - I got overwhelmed in the Paradise Plaza, under Colombian Roastmasters (getting out of the bathroom) and he pulled out a gun. Yuu - same place (I was watching my little brother play) and I guess zombies just mauled him. All three occasions, there were dozens of zombies surrounding the survivors. --Mistertrouble189 23:01, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is a video which includes aaron's death:
 * http://dead-rising.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Rising_Survivors#Video
 * Anno1404 23:04, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup, it's like that --Mistertrouble189 23:51, July 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. I didn't realize somebody already brought it up. Wikiar 06:21, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Three things
1 - wow that's really cool, it looks like it was intentional. maybe there's some connection between one of the game people and the RE office. 2 - See Sophie here. I'm trying to remember to add those sources for images lol. 3 - Im sorry for that =/ Hope it didn't do any major screwing up. How about a pic when Jonathan is standing up front instead? --Mistertrouble189 02:39, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the skateboarding tip. And big thanks for all those pics! Especially the main street ones, I really appreciate it. It's always fun to look out for the less-obvious things in games..Easter eggs, hidden things, or trivial things like the store names!--Mistertrouble189 04:29, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, we got our obsessions! Alright I'm done with Sycamore Street now...for good lol. --Mistertrouble189 04:38, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Laser Sword
No, those are the only two I need and you can take your time on them. I would upload pictures from my Xbox but I don't have the equipment for it... I'm only missing two achievements now. Frank-West 01:17, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
Late, but thanks! I'll get them into the articles soon. I won't be asking for any more pictures anytime soon, you deserve a break.The Yoshiman 97 03:57, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thnx
Hey I'm from the other Wiki. I guess you saw that message. Um... thanks for changing the background for the book pictures, that's pretty much it.--LovesWiki

Thanks!
Thanks, glad to hear it! I just got back from my freshman orientation for college...so tiring but so much fun. I gotta nap now...couldnt get into our dorms until 2am since there was no power (no ac, elevators were out - its a high rise! - bathrooms PITCH black..lol) I'll check back later in the evening! Aren't photos fun lol --Mistertrouble189 21:10, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Picture Master
Hey, so you got experience with picture editing and such. I just adopted a wiki and I need some help...could you make 's text white, and the background black? Basically inverting it right (negative mode or w.e)? That'd be appreciated. Thanks, Mistertrouble189 06:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, talk to you then, Mistertrouble189 06:18, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Slight change in request: two versions of the image, one with white text, black background, then another version with white text, transparent background. Thanks, Mistertrouble189 06:40, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Little Italy Of Horror!
Said to post if ya could help with anything, and I could use some help writing, it's just a thought at the moment, a little dim glow in my brain, but hows 'bout the mafia, mixed with the undead?

Imagine a captain and a few soldiers trying to take over in the middle of a rotting seige! But the main thing is, mafia and zombies, help if you want, do what you want! Tell me what you got,

for now, I'm goin back to surfin the Wikia, Mafia Mettaur 02:01, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Rising.
Only read up to finding out about Wrom, as I want there to be surprise when I read the novel, but it seems very promising, hope to get my claws on it when I can! And if you think it's a good idea, The Family stuck in the middle of Zed-Day, then help out! Hey, maybe make yer own extension of the family, write what happens to them! Or you could just help me make this one story I'm workin' on over 'ere. I'm in the webcomics thing, workin' on dat, after I get it written up, maybe I can find an artist too, y'know? Mafia Mettaur 13:15, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dead Rising 2 Stores, ahead of schedule.
Why not examine the video-footage of the gameplay, and look for which items are in which stores? See a katana somewhere, put that there can be katanas found there! If you see there are dice, then list dice for that store! You get what I mean? Why not try on that, not leave those stores blank, eh? Mafia Mettaur 13:19, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Laser Sword?
This weapon is blank, and since you seem to be the main editor here, thought I'd tell ya. Also, how are the small chainsaws the best if the laser sword is also supposed to be the best? Mafia Mettaur 16:28, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thanks!
Thanks for the medal, I'll be sure to keep contributing when I can! You'll be seeing more from me later, for now I have to find a image for the foam hand. Mafia Mettaur 20:03, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

DR2 Weapons
I went through a bunch of videos of gameplay and noted down all the weapons seen in them; that's how I managed to compile that (as of yet still incomplete) list. Also, the "zombie eater" is correctly named the Porta-Mower according to the official website. --Ciwey 20:43, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Internet isn't the only source.
I remember I got some gaming magazines. Maybe they have stuff that the web doesn't...I'm going to scan 'em through, see if I find any combos or anything like that. Also, why was the forum deleted? Was it getting out of hand or something? Mafia Mettaur 22:43, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Undead Psychopaths?
In a trailer for Dead Rising, the first, I saw Officer Jo Slade as a zombie. So the bosses can be zombies? And if so, why are there no pictures of them? Sorry if this post makes no sense, or very little of it, but my head has been scrambled by the heat. So, zed bosses? Mafia Mettaur 23:29, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Prisoners & The Cult
That's most likely probably true. On the other wiki, we just left it blank, but I'd bet my $ that they last until the Special Forces come by. --Mistertrouble189 23:39, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Request for inverted logo
Thank you very much, I appreciate it. I've saved it and uploaded it to the other wiki. --Mistertrouble189 01:11, July 24, 2010 (UTC) Bold text

Did it work
Did it work? Did you get the message I left you on the DR wiki? --Mistertrouble189 05:33, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: References
For the most part, I tested it myself - the cases are independent of scoops, so it's pretty obvious that Brad and Isabela don't count in the eight survivor limit. As for Tad... while doing Saint runs, I very often tend to have Jonathan, Brett, Alyssa, Debbie, Mindy, Paul, Gil, and Leroy when taking on Photographer's Pride, and after rescuing Tad that makes 9. Reasoning with how the scoop system works and how Photographer's Pride is pre-activated ahead of time after completing Photo Challenge would be how I came to that conclusion. --Ciwey 18:22, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Escort Tips
Aye, you had something we lacked so I used yours as a template. Other users pitched in and changed it around. Also, I was hanging around in Paradise Plaza on the first day (without ever getting the Cut From the Same Cloth scoop) and at around 8pm, I went to get OJ from Colombian Roastmasters. Upon entering, I see a man scream and drop dead. Then I realize it was Kent. Weird. No Health bar or anything, just dropped dead when I walked in. --Mistertrouble189 20:18, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Jackpot!
Here is a bunch of Combo weapons, found on another wikia.

http://deadrising.wikia.com/wiki/Combined_Weapons Mafia Mettaur 21:51, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Picture Requests.
You said since I had become a very active person here, that I could request screenshots? Well, I thought it might help if we could get pictures of the survivors as zombies, and add it to their profile. I don't know if it helps or not, but it feels like it's part of their info. Also, maybe I can work on the backgrounds of survivors? Is that alright with you? Mafia Mettaur 23:23, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Gordon The Handi-Capped Zombie?
In the pic, it looks like his right arm is missing. Is it actually gone, or bent behind him? Also, how do I add a barnstar to my page? And thank you very much for helping me start my time here!Mafia Mettaur 00:14, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hehe, thanks. It was a bit tedious (zoom, strain to read the title, pause game, type into laptop, repeat). I did the same for Cam's Camera and Child's Play. Thought it'd be neat to add all the merchandise and such onto store pages, if the Devs put in time to be detailed, why can't we? So I'm doing just that, we're encyclopedias, so lets get everything DR has to offer! I was gonna make a chart, but I haven't mastered that yet, so I'll rely on you for help :) Right now I have everything as a collapsible list but the bullets in the way they are right now can look a little weird, esp on my Players and Cam's Camera pages. --Mistertrouble189 01:07, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * The books is going to be insane...lol I'll wait until I learn how to do a chart before I tackle that. Just doing other stores in the PP right now. About to try out the Kent thing, and then take note on when Above the Law starts. --Mistertrouble189 01:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup, I got all of the toys in Child's Play (which is probably the same in Ye Olde Toybox, give or take a few)

And yes I meant table XD. For Cam's Camera, I'd like a two-column table, one for Product Type and then Product Name. Simple. --Mistertrouble189 01:46, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Any way to make the lines visible? Doesn't show up with our background. Jill's Sandwiches --Mistertrouble189 02:57, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sweet, thank you very much. I'm sitting in the restroom (in-game..lol) waiting for Sept 20, noon. Right now it's 3:15am. Think I'll pass the time by killing survivors and watching DR2 videos! --Mistertrouble189 03:32, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Panorama
Perfect, got all of the Ripper's Blades stuff and some of the Hideout stuff. Thanks, Mistertrouble189 05:30, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Limited Help.
Sorry Anno, but I can't get times and such at the moment. I've kinda lost the cables for my Xbox, and by lost I mean one of my siblings thinks it's funny to hide them, and then he forgot where they were. Little brothers, eh? However, I still have my computer, so I can still scan the web for info and such. So I'll still help, but it's kinda limited now. Mafia Mettaur 18:49, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Clear Quality.
Thought, should we get the videos for psychopaths and such in the day-time? In Cletus's video we have it's night-time, can't see a thing, saw a video in day-time, it's detailed and I know what I'm seein', get what I'm sayin'? Mafia Mettaur 18:54, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Black Circles on Pylons.
Maybe it's hair? Like a hair bun that is passing through the pylon? Has this happened with zombies that are bald? OR ones with hair, maybe it's that. Mafia Mettaur 21:07, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Smoothies!
Someof the mixed drinks are blank, and the invincibility one has no pic. Just thought you should know, if we are trying to fill things in. Can't add details if there ain't anything there yet, eh? Mafia Mettaur 21:12, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Survivors
* Ashamed* I've been neglecting that list a little, more into my own list O.O I'll get to updating the article list now. Thanks for the heads up. I've also took what you said about the category into consideration. --Mistertrouble189 21:44, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * TBH, I dunno where the names Susanna Williams and Andy Godd came from. A user created those pages, claiming to have a source from Capcom. I emailed the user and left a message on his page, but got no answer. Meh. Really wanted to know. We've renamed those articles on the wiki to more appropriate names, but I guess I didn't change it on my list yet (may not, I'm so used to those names heh)! And thanks =D Ash came up with the new list format, though I'm not a big fan of it. I find mine easier to deal with. I'll probably make a suggestion on the talk page and see which style users prefer. --Mistertrouble189 21:57, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a shame. We kept them anyway as they're survivors and somewhat notable. --Mistertrouble189 22:42, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Fixing the scoop template
I wasn't sure what that does. I tried it but nothing seemed to have changed? --Mistertrouble189 19:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

3 images
Hey!!! Those pictures are from the official DR2 site. http://deadrising-2.com/us/features

Go to "Weapons" and there they are.

Hope it helped. User:Nickjaro

Wii.
Haven't played the wii version yet, but it seems to just look like minigames. But it is a dead rising game, so should we get info on it? Mafia Mettaur 18:20, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Contributions.
Thanks, I just think that with the characters, there should be detail about them. Gonna work on Jo or the Snipers later on. Mafia Mettaur 20:56, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Would you kindly?
Videogame references for the win! But in all seriousness, mind cleanin up the articles I fill out? I think the crazies need to be described, but I feel I'm not doing a good enough job, y'know? Mafia Mettaur 02:19, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Already? Oh, thanks!
Glad I'm able to make someone smile! I try to put humor with facts, but I realize that's kinda not right for a wikia. So, thanks for cleaning, I also added to Larry the Butcher and to Jo Slade the....I'm not sure what she is, but pretty sure she ain't no creature of god! So, what would you call youself, from that group of WikiFauna thing? In fact, what exactly would I be? I recognized a few things, like the troll, but I just got confused later on. Mafia Mettaur 02:56, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

So, what about the fatties?
Did I do good? Or just not cleaned yet? I hope it's hte first one...I'm gonna update Paul tomorrow. Mafia Mettaur 02:59, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

# of zombies
I was counting one time, but sort of got distracted and never finished. I'll try again eventually... --Mistertrouble189 00:35, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I'm in the comics!
Just a little quip to ya, I'm starting this comic based on the events of a forum game. Wanna sign up? Eh, nevermind, probably too busy...but if you can, just tell me! Mafia Mettaur 02:53, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, really? Well then, that's great!
The game is being hosted on deadrising2.net, here is the link to where you sign up. Okay then, hope ya have fun!

http://www.deadrising2.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2008&st=0&#entry33951 Mafia Mettaur 03:06, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Son of a
That's fine. Were you using a guide to get the achievement? Because if you were, DON'T. It's a lot easier with out one. Anyway no big deal. Frank -  West   16:08, August 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that'll work for now. I like the way you have the survivor list on the guide, the little thumbnail notebook photos look nice. Anyway the image you found works, I'll credit it to this wiki. Photoop.png Frank -  West  Photoop.png 18:18, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Information to update
Nice, thanks for the info! I haven't played DR lately, but I'm currently at 2am on Day 1 (just rescued David). Will progress some more later and check up on the Gun Shop Standoff and Drunkard times. The Susan and Leroy scoops do start at the same time. --Mistertrouble189 23:35, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, take a look at this? --Mistertrouble189 16:09, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my bad. The guy wasn't clear in his wording. He meant something else (Cliff and Paul seem to be the only ones to show remorse for what they did, not the Convicts). And nice finds, dood. I think I already knew that there had to be at least 3 people for Kindell and Ronald's scoops, but not for Floyd.

Sign up?
Er, you changed your mind? We still would love to have you in the game, but are you joining? Just hopin' so, cuz one of our players dropped out, vacation calls. Mafia Mettaur 01:36, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wikifauna?
I think I understand it, I recognize a few like the troll, knight, and such, but it confuses me. What exactally is this? And what type am I? Mafia Mettaur 02:26, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Custom Sigs
The thing with rubberbanding a controller doesn't usually work for me. It still auto offs. But for the sig. So now that I have it changed to the template/subpage thing it'll work always? Here's testing it... http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/7/72/Photoop2.png Frank -  West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/7/72/Photoop2.png 02:54, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah not working. I checked the "custom signature" box, was I supposed to NOT do that? ~Frank
 * Actually I think I got it... I need to create a subpage on every wiki I use this for, right? ~Frank
 * Well see it works on deadrising, and it works on the Crackdown wiki when I made a subpage, so I figure that's how I gotta do it. ~Frank
 * Trying once more with subpage created HERE. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/7/72/Photoop2.png Frank -  West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/7/72/Photoop2.png 03:05, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay the way without a template works, but check this out: http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/7/72/Photoop2.png Frank -  West  http:/
 * When I copy/paste it it cuts off. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/7/72/Photoop2.png Frank -  West  http:/ 03:09, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Removing that many characters STILL isn't enough. Personally I'm surprised wikia would have a limit in this. I mean, you'd think they'd have the foresight to know people would want a nice custom sig. Oh well. If you can fix it that'd be great, otherwise no big deal; I only edit a few wikis (Two main ones and a couple others) so I can just make the subpages if I need to leave talk messages. ~Frank
 * Yeah, go ahead and give the contributions part the axe. I don't really need it. Thanks a lot for doing this; I would get incredibly frustrated trying to figure this stuff out. ~Frank

It works! Thanks man! =) http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png Frank - West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 03:31, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ouch. Good luck. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png Frank - West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 03:38, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

A Favor to Ask...
I ask of you this my good friend, may I have a Mafia Frank West? You know, in the family getup, with the snake suit, fedora, and a appropriate weapon? Only if you feels like it, kay?

Yep, that's pretty much it, pic of him like that in the game. My xbox has no wires, dang kids, but was hopin' you could get one. But if you know anyone that draws, or does yourself, that would be cool too. Oh, and the link is in all the words now, coool! Mafia Mettaur 02:37, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, torn between light brown and black...lets go with light brown, and the submachine gun is fine. Feel free to make any more mafia outfit and weapon combos if youse wants, could use them for stuff. Mafia Mettaur 02:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Cropping watermarks and attribution
I've recently begun cropping out gamespot and IGN watermarks as seen at image #10 till #24. Have some other sitting on my desktop waiting to be cropped, gotta find the other watermarked pics and take care of them. Still getting into the habit of attributing not just this wiki, but other sites as well. --Mistertrouble189 05:27, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks dude!
The Mafia Games on the Dead Rising site'll get a kick out of this! Mafia Mettaur 17:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry.
Screwed up the Hail Mary, don't know how to fix. >_< Mafia Mettaur 17:42, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wow! It's a honor!
Can't beleive it, I won't let this wikia down! Admin, wow, thank you! I better get to those other pages now, once again, thanks!Mafia Mettaur 22:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Questions.
How many of the psychopaths do you think were already crazy before the incident at the mall? Besides Steven, he doesn't count. It's obvious with him. Also, the people dressed like security, should I put they are former security in their profiles? Mafia Mettaur 02:38, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh
I see your wiki is having problems with images too. Tis annoying to have images disappear here, DR wiki, Zeldapedia, etc. Hope it gets fixed soon. I haven't had any picture requests for you in while (bet you're glad, hah), but I have a lot for Zeldapedia. If only people were as kind and willing to help as you are! --Mistertrouble189 05:14, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * At least they're "working" on it...we'll see how it goes. Meh. I changed the site notice (should do that at MySims and I Am Alive Wikis too..I'll let Zeldapedia figure it out on their own =P ) Aha! There are more than 20 types..some of them are almost the same, but different (heads, etc). I took a look at the template page - LOL good luck editing that atm! I feel your frustration. The gallery changes annoyed me a little bit too. It's nice being able to have all the images a square or "landscape", but it does not work with tall images. Like the Kindell and Janet pages have vertical images. When squared or landscaped, it zooms in on their torso. Not a good preview. But without a standard shape, it looks all misaligned and not too good..an option for what the gallery used to be should be available. Funny, your example (the North Plaza page) - the pics won't load!! Oh Wikia.. --Mistertrouble189 05:33, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Plants & Weapons
We only had four plants down! And here's a pic for a plant that you didn't have/upload. I think one of our admins is gonna create a page for all 6 potted plants (hmm..alright). Potted plants..so clumsy but the sound of the plant shattering on a zombie brings satisfaction. Thanks for sharing! I think Frank-West (or Ciwey? dunno) were going to come up with a system that another user who wrote a walkthrough came up with. Frankly, I have no idea how it's going to be done, and it's going to be very tedious and long to complete the project (I don't think I'd wana be involved on that project heh, I'll stick with my specialty in characters, locations and scoops/missions! --Mistertrouble189 20:13, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think finding out the strength of zombies should be relatively easy and a good addition to the article. Your system is good and easy to understand. --Mistertrouble189 03:40, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The blender, it's alive!
Animated pictures for items is a great idea, especially ones that show the item rotating for a full view! Awesome idea! You gets one internet!

Or a apple. How much health do they recover anyways? I forgets. :P Mafia Mettaur 01:42, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

New story idea, fan thing for Dead Rising!
You know how there is like less than 30 zombies in dead rising? I'm thinking of making a comic deatiling just before the attack, and them all dyting. Good idea? Mafia Mettaur 02:59, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

New story idea, fan thing for Dead Rising!
You know how there is like less than 30 zombies in dead rising? I'm thinking of making a comic deatiling just before the attack, and them all dyting. Good idea? Mafia Mettaur 02:59, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, this will be interesting indeed, hm...
I'd say I was thinking of some interesting pre-death story as I stroked my beard, but sadly I have no beard. So at the moment I am thinking of his pre-death story while scratching the sad little scruff on my chin. I'm thinking Joey will have been barricaded somewhere with two other survivors. And one already died, so he gave his life to give the last guy more time. But when the last guy opens the back door to escape, turns out 6 or so zombies were already there clawing at the door, so all three die. I came up with this in 46 seconds. Good enough? Mafia Mettaur 21:00, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I made his story up on his page, check it out if'n you want. Mafia Mettaur 21:07, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Bare to the Bones!
Don't worry, I'll put some meat on them pages! Maybe some tips on how to get the achievements! And about the zombie survivors, they will be done! Mafia Mettaur 23:09, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

About that second zombie?
The one named Zadoc? Well, turns out I wasn't doing a friend a favor, he's actually the no-internet type, doesn't like it. Could you change his name to Zachary instead? Mafia Mettaur 16:54, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's lots of pics man.
Seriously, how are you able to do all this? Great job man, should I put 'em in for you? Mafia Mettaur 19:04, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I got it. But thanks for asking. We have over 2000 images on the site now. Keep up the good work with the zombie pages. I suggest being more specific. Replace "somewhere" with a location. Even if you don't like the location you can always go back and change. Anno1404 19:06, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploading zombie pics, reason.
Well, I'm making a fan-page for each zombie, so I put the picture of each zombie that goes with it's bio. Which reminds me, I got more to do. If you want to help with this, that's great! Tell me how? Mafia Mettaur 00:45, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Kewl Komic.
It's for Urban Dead, zombie browser game? Pretty low tech, but one of the best I've ever seen online. This is based on how useful the scout is. His abilities? I can run away like a little girl, and leave everyone else to get chewed on. And to think I actually used my medkit on him! Mafia Mettaur 21:12, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Not needed, already done.
There already is a wiki on the game, pretty popular game it is. You play it? Mafia Mettaur 21:21, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Something I would suggest-
Most new guys would want to start out as a fire fighter, or a police man. These are solid starter classes, police man you want to scavenge for ammo as much as you can, and also you must establish a foothold with your fellow officers. The other new guys? Tell them you have led before, (Which I actually have), and you can help them survive! And congrats, you are in charge of your own police squad. And once you reach 100 XP, I suggest either to learn how to construct barricades, pistol training, or free running, so you can kill and get in buildings. Good advice? Mafia Mettaur 21:34, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Question about a user
Hey there!

I am a Bureaucrat on Bully Wiki, and a user by the name of Karensarahrocks edits there. Right now I am in the middle of a dispute with her.

I was just wondering why was she blocked here? Dan the Man 1983 06:11, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Messed up, again.
This time with the parasol. Can you help with that? Also, why does it seem that only you and me work on this Wiki?

And did you join the game? Mafia Mettaur 21:38, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Might be useful!
It was good getting zombie pictures of survivors, has that been dropped? But another idea for the survivors, we get full pictures of them and put it on their profiles! What if, for example, I want to draw survivors and psycho's from infinity mode battling it out? I need a full picture of the person, get what I'm sayin'? And if you were wondering, first fight is Rich Atkins versus Wayne Blackwell, in the Meat Processing Area. Mafia Mettaur 05:55, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I figured-
Are the bathroom's on your list already? Cuz they didn't even exist yet, and I'm kinda busy on Infinity Mode right now, and trying to stay awake. So, yeah, sorry about another thing on the list. Mafia Mettaur 07:34, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

And now, I need some rest. See ya tomorrow! Mafia Mettaur 07:40, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Achievement Unlocked!
You know that game? It's on armorgames, your a elephant doing useless stuff with no gameplay, just to get the achievements. But still, I think we shouldn't go overboard with the badges. Lets start out small, kay? Mafia Mettaur 19:25, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on now-
I'm not saying drop the badges, but we already have a tad too much on our plates, let's just wait till after case 0 comes out to start on BADGES, okay? Not add to the list, right? Mafia Mettaur 02:53, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

No Camera?
Well, Chop Till Ya Drop had no camera, and it was good! Okay, decent, okay, I didn't smash it and burn it at least. Hopefully with all the new features and combo weapons, really excited about those, and the stupid money lottery mini-games, which you will probably need the money from so you'll need to play them, which will annoy gamers momre that Otis did, DR 2 will still be a success! Mafia Mettaur 22:43, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously tho, they may be anticipated now, but i have a feeling when the game becomes not new and is a beloved classic like Dead Rising, people will look back on the money mini-games like the ones in mario party. the nagain, Mario Party was nothing but mini-games, that explains the general dislike of it, i guess. Agree, disagree? Mafia Mettaur 02:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Case Zero video
I don't think the video(s) at justintv.net or whatever work anymore :( Do you know any other links for videos? I finished watching the almost 2 hour video yesterday and now want to take screencaps -_- --Mistertrouble189 04:53, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh so these aren't your pictures? Alright, fair enough, considering there is very limited media on CZ stuff now =X So yeah, I'll keep the watermarks hope they're not obnoxious watermarks... --Mistertrouble189 05:52, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * First, they are still on google cache, and can be watched. (more, it gets MUCH better)....
 * Second, a whole slew of them are on youtube now, as good of quality. (yes, it gets even better)....
 * Currently I am watching the google cache video. I am using a program called Fraps which takes a screenshot EVERY second automatically. I estimate the two hour video will contain...get this... it gets even better....


 * Oh sweet I forgot about the cache thing. And wow, dude, you never cease to amaze me.....lol damn. Nice. --Mistertrouble189 06:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not 100% sure...think it was one of the Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Part # videos on YouTube. --Mistertrouble189 04:47, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE:mission names
I only saw the name for Above the Law, which was in the 1 hour 45 min long video on justin.tv which no longer appears...(I'm watching the cached version of a diff video on the site). The mission name appeared on the screen and was just about to run out until Chuck got Darcie and Bob together. As for Win Some Lose Some, Handle with Care, and The Morning After, I already saw those names on the wiki and just matched them with the best-fitting mission so I don't know where exactly it came from..prob some video -_- --Mistertrouble189 15:43, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, good sleuthing lol. I retraced my steps to our Scoops page, looked at the talk page and found the link that had the two missions we were talking about in a message I left on the talk page. The moron filmer moves the camera away just as the mission name should appear on the screen. Wanted to see if that was the same as it now, perhaps giving a clue that the mission names are still the same. Whatever, we'll see more footage soon. Five days. --Mistertrouble189 20:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Handle With Care
Yes, it was one of the JustinTV videos the guy posted before he was suspended, but he had about seven or eight of them so I can't remember which. One of the first three, I think. I'd try to find it again but I have no idea how to use Google Cache. Dengarde 18:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't tell you sooner, I forgot, I usually do stuff like that. =)
Sorry mate, but I'm taking a short break, maybe a few days, or a week. Need some time to recharge, schooling just started up again, you know the bloody mess, am I right? Anyways, I'll be back soon, just be ready to clean up my messy edits once I get back, aight buddy? Mafia Mettaur 01:51, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ah man, you serious?!
This si the worst time possible to be broke, have my xbox wires lost AGAIN, and have no way to buy games, all of the above! But hell, I gotta stay for this, I'll scavange the internet for info, I'm not gonna miss out on Case 0 info makin'! Count me early back! Mafia Mettaur 02:31, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I feel like organizing!
Where is those thousands of pictures for Case 0 you had? I'll put 'em in place for ya! Mafia Mettaur 18:33, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't uploaded them yet. I have 900 ready to upload though :) I can email them to you. Let me see how big they all are. Anno1404 18:51, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 860 MB, way to big for google (maximum 10 MB). If you want to upload, use http://dead-rising.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MultipleUpload and make sure to write:
 * 00 from Justin.tv - Tyndis - Dead Rising 2- Case Zero (Xbox 360) Aug 20 2010 at 4-56PM CEST defunct site http://www.justin.tv/tyndis/b/268713863
 * Just copy and paste.
 * Try to keep the comments in the captions encyclopedic and personal comments to a minimum :)
 * YOU ROCK.
 * Let me see if I can find a way to upload these to a site and share them with you. Anno1404 18:54, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't expect this to happen.
Aparently my oh so helpful family put up an extreme firewall for the entire house except their own computers, I can't even access my damned email. I'm really sorry, but could you upload them for me? Mafia Mettaur 10:25, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Just curious
Hi. I'm wondering why you don't merge this wikia with the other Dead rising one. One stop shop and all that.

Hefe 15:23, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Our sister project could always merge with this one :)
 * I have toyed with the idea of a greater collaboration with our sister wikia. I was thinking of converting some pages to templates which both projects could edit and contribute, a kind of first step towards complete merging.
 * For example:
 * all store pages are on deadrising and
 * all walkthroughs are here,
 * Both wikis could edit those templates and the results would show up on both wikis. This would capitalize on each wikis strengths.
 * Both wikis could edit those templates and the results would show up on both wikis. This would capitalize on each wikis strengths.


 * This is already done with wikia help, which shows up on several thousand wikis.


 * On the flip side, there is something to be said about having separate projects for the same material. Where our sister wiki is strong, this one is weak, and vice versa. I don't necessarily know if combing both wikis would make both stronger. Editors would be laxer I think.  In addition there is opposition to the way this wiki has complex templates. We have different priorities, some of which may not be compatible.


 * probably more information than you were expecting from a casual question, but your question comes at a time when I have been thinking about this more and more. Anno1404 15:40, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Anno? Are you sure you got around to making those barricades?
Looks like we got us some new editor fella's and missus'! Well, I guess Case 0 brought some people on google searches, and they found us due to the most complete and comprehensive info? And by the way, comprehensive, what those that mean? Joke, joke, but hurrah, we have new blood! And not so much that things get chaotic! Mafia Mettaur 22:38, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Case Zero pics
Hey Anno. Have you gotten Case Zero yet? If so, I have some image requests =D (I havent had a chance to play it..maybe this weekend) --Mistertrouble189 05:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * It will be a bit, two weeks, maybe. I have no camera and am trying to learn to take screen shots of every item and every location. It is significantly more difficult. You can post your requests, make a wish list as you go along. Again, it will be a while.Anno1404 05:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Combo Weapons
Hey just came here from google search. I edited the page of combo weapons, I was a fast and easy list of how to make all the combo weapons but didnt want to mess up your whole entire site so just did it for a couple of them

http://dead-rising.wikia.com/wiki/Combo_Weapon

Light sword
If you'd like I can confirm the gems appearance in Case 0, or you could try the quest. I do not have an in-game camera but I could try. If you want to see for yourself, I can give you exact details of the quest. Rectified 04:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Rectified's Corner!
Thanks for shaping up my edits; I'm still learning. :D Rectified 05:06, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * xD I'm actually playing it right now, so as you create or edit weapons, I'm testing them and putting more accurate info! :D Rectified 01:15, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm not 100% sure if it drops the 800 if you throw it, but if you melee with it until it breaks, which is around 25 times, 800 dollars hit the ground. You might have missed it pop up on the screen because I almost did; the only reason i noticed it was because i was looking for it. Rectified 01:59, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I misread what you said, you were right.
 * Couple of problems though, the saw blade does at least 4 hits before breaking, and the money case breaks after about 10-11 hits. I will recheck both of these. Anno1404 02:03, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, you mean in the "lasts" section? I put 2 because you can only throw it twice, but yes it can hit many times. The way i count the hits is each individual zombie; you get more accurate results. For instance, if you counted how many times you could hit enemies with a bat and you always hit multiple zombies at once, you will get a low number such as 10, but if you only hit one zombie at a time, or count exactly how many zombies you hit at the same time; Each zombie being 1 hit; You get more accurate numbers. It's hard to explain, but if you try it you will see what i mean. I had to run around whacking zombies for a good time with diff weapons to figure it out, but i can't necessarily describe it well yet. :) Rectified 02:11, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * So I think, technically, I'm counting how many zombies I can kill before it breaks, which is a good way of measuring. If you measure by how many times you can hit enemies(disregarding the number of enemies) you will get many different results, which further suggests that durability is measured of each individual hit to each individual zombie. Maybe this needs more research! Rectified 02:30, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, this theory makes even more sense when you think of the strength of the weapons. Some weapons are one hitter quitters, and others are not, which is why I think their durability differs. Or perhaps I'm rambling. :P We should ponder this subject further. Rectified 02:33, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

I base the original numbers and how we count how many time weapons last on the old dead rising list.

The number is determined on how many time Chuck hits a zombie. (you can hit inanimate objects forever without breaking them).

You are right, it is hard to determine. The money case has an upper-lower cut, so it often hits twice. I do know that there is only 10-11 hits before breaking. I try to get Chuck to only do the one hit, not the second one.

I have played through 3 times and am playing through a fourth time to figure out an exact number with the money case.

Throwing the saw blade lasts 4 to 5 times. The lists in Dead Rising count only melee hits, but we can start including throwing also.

I will let you know what I find out, if necessary I can see if I can post my findings on justin.tv so you can examine the results. Anno1404 02:57, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't overwork yourself! :) I appreciate the extra effort to get the numbers right; I may have miscounted with the money case, because like you said it does attack oddly, but I trust you completely. Also, you are probably right about the saw too, I had thrown it into a crowd, killing at least 8 at a time, so when i picked it up again, it's durability was probably horrible cause it had killed so much in one throw; I'll look into that more and see if it depends how many you kill per throw. Thanks for your understanding and willingness to negotiate the matter; I like working together with people on things such as this. :D Rectified 03:04, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, you're totally right about the saw blade! It turns out you can kill one zombie with one throw and still throw it about 3 more times. I got a durability of 4 on all of my tests and I found out that on the last use it can still kill until it stops moving completely, then it disappears. Rectified 03:14, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * xD Alrighty then the case is solved!(get it? :3) But the saw... it will be difficult. I think we can safely say a durability of 4 and add in the description "Although it has a low durability, it is very capable of dispatching almost 10 zombies in one throw." or something along those lines. :) Rectified 03:20, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice pics! :D Btw, how did you kill Gemini? It was kinda hard for me, but i was mostly messing around. I let her get eaten by zombies for a while then eventually cut her down with my righteous broadsword of... purging. I only ask cause I had some trouble until Fausto was dead (eaten alive by zombies) cause they were double teaming me :/ Rectified 03:44, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hehehe, I was about to point that out. I trust you on the saw blade; I'll look into the Zombie survivors. Rectified 04:03, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, again Fausto just dropped dead. I'm not so sure about this. Perhaps if they were bitten but stayed alive for a while? Although im not sure how to do that when they chase me around town trying to gouge out my eyes... All I did was hit Fausto a few times with a bar stool. :( Rectified 04:09, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see, i'll try again, but go at it a different way this time. Rectified 04:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, that's a negative, they just die and get fed on by zombies. The feeding scene is worth a shot though, if i was you, i'd do it just to get a shot of the zombies eating their bodies. They are LOUD eaters!! Maybe they can become zombies in the real version? Rectified 04:27, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

On the bright side, I was able to confirm the Money Case's durability of 11-15 (I got 15). :) Rectified 04:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, no there isn't. I meant the scene of the crime type of scene, haha. The "make a scene" type of scene. Just the basic view of the zombies feeding is pretty... special. They seem to feed forever and thoroughly. The maximum number of zombies feeding on one corpse is 5. I just thought it would make a good picture. I like all of the pics you put up so far, btw. Very nice~ Rectified 04:51, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

You are the best picture-taker! :o So thorough! Rectified 02:39, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm, I personally think it'd be easier to just tell their location, because there aren't many unique items. But I suppose I could make a page titled Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Unique Items Eh? it wouldn't be much trouble, as long as you wouldn't mind posting pics. Rectified 22:04, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you think I should put clothes on that list as well? or do we already have a page for that? At the moment I was thinking Weapons and items. Rectified 22:23, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're thinking of the Black Cowboy Hat. But alright I can stop making it, but I don't think I can delete it, can you do that? I'll work on those pages. Rectified 23:05, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll finish it up and you can categorize it wherever you want. We can just link it to each of those pages as a nice big list of everything, right? :D Rectified 23:16, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! <3 It's a pleasure working with you too!~ I actually just searched DR in the wikia and i noticed there were two. I prefer this one, because it has a nicer design and I actually like the people here! The other had that dark background, which besides making it sorta difficult to read, it was just ugly. :P Rectified 23:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Likewise! :3 Rectified 00:02, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, sorry I was absent for so long; busy with school, but I will get on whenever I can! Rectified 00:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have! :o looks awesome! I made a comment on the talk page about the loading screen. xD Rectified 01:08, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I wonder if they thought about it. It's too late now, but they might be able to release an update to reduce that? One can hope, but all I know is it was disappointing to have to wait through all the loading in Case 0. It was mainly annoying because there was a load screen, then cut-scene, then another load screen just as long! They should add a little easter egg like in Lost Planet 2, where you could play around in the loading screens! :3 Rectified 01:44, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's how Capcom is. *sigh* But like you said, they did fix the text problems on the next title (LP) after DR due to complaints, so we might have a small chance! Rectified 02:19, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know that about the Dolly; nice! I'll check it out! Rectified 21:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Anno! I can't wait! Only a few more days! :D Rectified 04:14, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Annooo! xD That's exactly why i don't want to watch the vids! I want it to be a good story experience! Of course, seeing as it's Capcom...won't be much of a story... T.T But that's beside the point! It should be very fun! I will do my best to help add info once it come out! Rectified 04:27, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anno! :D I have meh copy! Time to commence Operation: Exploration & Explanation. Catchy, eh? Woooo! Rectified 23:08, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Aw, i hope i can still help even though you are omniscient now! :3 Btw, do you have a page for the Ninja outfit? I can make one and describe effects if you'd like. Rectified 00:07, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha! It isn't a secret that Gamestop is ichiban! :D Rectified 01:26, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Btw, why does Capcom feel the need to make all female characters extremely voluptuous?? It makes me uncomfortable... Rectified 02:33, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, mission accomplished! :/ Maybe I will be sexy like these girls if I act like them? That's a thought. Rectified 02:47, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's no good! I expected something along those lines :P Most people call me a tomboy for that reason I 'spose. That's why I feel weird watching these girls walk around very provocatively! :o I didn't think it was that bad, however. :'( Anyhow, that plan sounds amazing! I will help as best I can to make it happen! Rectified 02:58, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh btw, I can confirm the weapon is called the Laser Sword! I'm sure you already know, but it's awesome! xD Rectified 03:10, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm still in the process of exploring. It kind of bothers me that Chuck is always on a tight schedule. :( But I will contribute on what I've already tested or learned! Rectified 00:46, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Uh, si-sir? I think we may have a problem..
Remember the movie that was from? It was with zombies, a small military unit had just cleared out an area, the nervous fresh recruit said that, directing his officers attention to hundreds of undead approaching from behind. Well, I just invented that story! Anyways, onto the problem, pictures are getting freaky again, someplaces they are fine, others you just have red links saying it doesn't exist, like the barnstar. Know what's causing this? Mafia Mettaur 19:09, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot to tell ya!
But my xbox got fixed 2 weeks ago, and I discovered something while starting a killing spree! Thinking I might get erotica, i'm not that smart, I snapped a few photo's up Natalies skirt, and I got horror! I saw in the photo's, she wears some kinda purple thong, and it counts as horror, usualy 68-69 points. Did you know that? Mafia Mettaur 01:55, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Tabber
Thank you! But is there any coding you have to put into the .js or .css coding? The Yoshiman 97 16:33, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * no, it is all taken care of in the extension that every wiki already has, see Special:Version. Anno1404 22:02, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I applied the tabber coding into one of my sandboxes, Sanboxes, and it worked, but attempts at putting templates in my other sandbox only resulted in failure. Could you please give me more direction? I'm really close to getting this to work.

Note: Could you please direct any help related to this problem on my talk page here? It'd be more convenient for me to see whether or not you have responded to my message. Thanks, The Yoshiman 97 23:50, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Another little side project.
I've noticed lots of DR comics and comics poking fun at or making references towards the game, do you think we should list them? Mafia Mettaur 02:55, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Can't Access!
Due to some firewall, I can't get to some innapropriate content a unregistered user made. So bad, I can't get to it! It's in the Case 0 walkthrough, he edited the Mechanic, so I think we have a repeat offender here. Mafia Mettaur 21:42, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand why I can't see it then..well, another thing is that skin, the scratched up stone and marble? I gotta agree with youse, it is ugly, and has nothing to do with the game. We should make a skin that matches the game, it's goddamn Dead Rising, not Little Big Planet, or Lets Play Ugly Wikia Skin. We should make a wikia skin that is dark, but humorous, like the game. Agreed? Mafia Mettaur 21:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, one of our users on our wiki uploaded some of your photos. See User blog:Doucetth/Permission to upload photos. Would you like for us to attribute them to this wiki or remove them? --Mistertrouble189 22:12, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Anno1404 23:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh. I will respond on the deadrising wikia. Anno1404 23:58, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hope all is well
Things are going fine. I'm currently watching a playthrough of DR2 right now (Some Eurpeans got it early) And learning about Survivors. (While skipping the Cases. Don't wanna spoil the story yet). Afterwords I'm probably gonna just get out of the DR2 world untill it's released on the 28th. You're welcome for the help though! Dengarde 02:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

RE:uploaded
Thank you! Much appreciated. Just played Case Zero today. It's awesome! Doing a second playthrough which I'll be exploring stuff. Killed Bob without a snitch with a sledgehammer hehe. I'm going to see if survivors can turn into the undead. --Mistertrouble189 20:57, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

No Problem
Haha no problem. I was a little worried, cause after I posted that I realized you were running this Wikia and I didn't mean to offend. You're doing some great work, I'd like to start contributing once I finish the game and eventually pick up the guide. JudoJoe 16:50, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I just beat the game earlier today and I was thinking this Wiki could really use videos, like walkthrough videos, achievement videos, etc. Mind if I start tackling that?

Thanks man.
I took and I'II send more :)

Photos
I took a few more, but it is difficult, these zombies do not give me a truce.I have to kill them without destroying the stores.But, anyway I'm glad to help :D PS: Sorry for my bad english :P

Vermicida47 14:03, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Country
I'm from Brazil and you?

Vermicida47 21:42, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pics
You want me to replace the pics of the shots & awe and sturdy package?

Vermicida47 22:48, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sushi Master
I didn't found the store : Sushi Master And also not shown in the map.Vermicida47 23:46, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome! Yes, Lost is my favorite television show to date. Wasn't really fond of Season 6 though. Anyway, thank you. --Blackout0189

Mixed Drinks
I noticed that you are missing the Cocktail and Vodka drinks on your mixed drinks page, but I do not have enough wiki-skill to fill in the charts. Can you make the charts but leave them empty? As I can enter the combinations from that point on.Kenji 03 08:15, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure I will make the charts, give me a second. Are you going off of the official guide? As this has all of the drink combinations in it. I will start with the existing charts we have, and expand them to include the dead rising 2 info. Anno1404 08:21, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am going off of gameplay, as in the game I can mix two Vodka's to make a Pain Killer and a Vokda/Cocktail to make one as well, yet neither of these items are on the recipe chart. I'm @ work now, but as soon as I get off work I'll start filling in the missing combo items Kenji 03 08:24, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Counter
You mean the counter until the military arrives or the survivors missions counter?

Vermicida47 10:04, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Counter and Avatar
Counter: Sometimes when you go to the safe house and then leave, that thing will disappear.

Avatar: Is from Gta IV - Patrick Mcreary

Vermicida47 11:17, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments
Thanks for praising my edits; I'm not sure they're up to scratch, though, they could use more links and maybe some finer detail work; I'm just doing this while it's fresh in my mind.

Silvertie 12:04, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Counter
Case 2-2: Ticket to Ride

Vermicida47 12:18, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hey,

I just took some video of Zombrex 1. It starts after the cutscenes between fleeing the Arena and getting to the Safe House. Should I include the vent cutscenes and what not when I edit it? I take it all the way to returning to the Safe House with the pharmacist.

Nick Kohut 18:45, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Do you have something installed on your Xbox that captures your display directly? If so, I'd love to know what it is. Otherwise, my video isn't perfect. The audio jack was too sensitive for some reason. A lot of stuff clipped. I will upload the video anyway for you to see, but I see a lot of really nice direct HD vids online and I think we should get that kind of quality. Nick Kohut 20:46, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Video Capture
I was capturing gameplay with a Canon HD Camcorder and logging that footage into Final Cut Pro. I exported directly to YouTube for now. FLV is very easy to work with for me, since I run on Mac. I can also work with MOV and other formats. I usually work in H.264 or Pro-Res. After seeing the hardware you've been sending me, I think it'd be better if we found someone who already owns a direct capture box. Nick Kohut 21:10, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

OH - If you want to do the videos and you have trouble working with the FLVs, you can send them to me and I can convert/upload them for you.

Good Work
Thanks for appreciate my job.

You doing a great job here.

Answer my questions quickly, you're a great editor, and you're always online and running this wiki.

No one ever praised me so much!

Thanks Again :)

Vermicida47 21:55, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Next
I don't know. Something involving pictures :P

Vermicida47 01:02, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Video
So you like it? I wanted to keep it clean. No additional text. No load screens. No voice overs. The only thing I don't like is the audio, but it isn't terrible. If you like this one, I'll start uploading some more. I can start doing a case or two tomorrow. Nick Kohut 02:50, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Pain Killer
My Apologies on the Pain Killer article edit. The only reason why I edited it was because it used to say that drinking Pain Killer grants Immunity which was clearly wrong not only because the drink, "Energizer" appears to grant immunity for 10 seconds but because of my own experiences with Pain Killer. As for taking half damage, I only assume this statement from reading on a forum saying that it halves the damage. It is kinda hard to find the correct amount of damage pain killer reduces due to a lot of enemies dealing either two or one bar of health(I think).

Nav Suggestions
Just a suggestion. I think you should adjust the navigation like so: Dead Rising Wiki Games Main Series Dead Rising Dead Rising 2 Additions Games/DLCs Chop Till You Drop Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Dead Rising 2: Case West Walkthroughs Dead Rising Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Dead Rising 2 Dead Rising 2: Case West Soundtracks Dead Rising Dead Rising 2 (Not Out Yet) Popular Pages Community

What do you think?
 * I will add it later this morning, nice job! dealing with vandalism now. Anno1404 12:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Rival Wiki
you do know that there is a rival wiki to your DeadRising 2 wiki. http://deadrising.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MyHome. I started off at that wiki but came here because of the incredibly increased organization from your templates. I don't know how you want to play it out, but a lot of the info you asked me for is available on there. I kind of like having a specific wiki for dead rising 2, but I'm not sure how you feel about the rival as you've obviously put a lot of work into this wiki. Kenji 03 12:09, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * long story, if you are interested I will share it with you, need to head off now though. Anno1404 12:35, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki-email & food coloring
the e-mail worked fine. I just have a bit of a busy life and can only really check e-mail (and dick around) at work. But here's a thought. Instead of making 61 colors, how about coloring by group? Alcohol one color, non-vomit-inducing the next, packaged food another color, spoiled food yet another, etc etc. It isn't as good as having 61 unique colors, but I don't think there even are 61 honestly unique colors that the human mind can process... Since most of us would group the alcoholic beverages into one big category anyway, why not just apply that logic to everything else? Kenji 03 12:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * great idea! I will do that, thanks. any other suggestions let me know. Anno1404 12:33, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Navigation
Hit "Edit The Menu" at the bottom of the Navigation and copy the following:


 * mainpage|Home *Games **Main Series ***Dead Rising ***Dead Rising 2 **Additional Games & DLCs ***Chop Till You Drop ***Dead Rising 2: Case Zero ***Dead Rising 2: Case West *Walkthroughs **Dead Rising **Chop Till You Drop **Dead Rising 2: Case Zero **Dead Rising 2 **Dead Rising 2: Case West *Soundtracks **Dead Rising Soundtrack **Dead Rising 2 Soundtrack *blogs-recent-url|Recent Blogs *portal-url|community **#topusers#|top_users **portal-url|portal **forum-url|forum

This will give you a pretty solid foundation, which can be added upon at any time. Also, have you seen this on the rival DR Wiki? I think you should look into it.

Nick Kohut 12:49, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * adding it right now.
 * I like to use the word "sister" project. We work together quite a lot actually.
 * I will ask for the leaderboard also today. This is something I knew about for months, (even before our sister project got their leaderboard) and have never gotten around too doing. You are welcome to help design the icons, titles, etc for this.
 * thank you for your great suggestions! Keep them coming please! Be bold too, you don't like something, jump in and change it! Anno1404 13:47, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * done! MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar I didn't put the soundtrack in, as it was rather minor, if you feel strongly that it should stay, I will add it back. Anno1404 13:53, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Leaderboards
Awesome job on the navigation, and that's okay about the soundtracks, they are pretty minor currently. I was thinking as the Dead Rising franchise grows in popularity and books and stuff come out, you can put in more sections. Anyway, I would love to design the awards. Just let me know what awards you have in mind and I'll either design icons or even use icons from the game, like that safety poster. Otherwise I was thinking of vector Zombrex Needles and weapons. Nick Kohut 00:26, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Front Page Suggestion
Front_Page_Suggestion_(Temporary)

I drafted up something I think may look better. Also includes latest blogs so this Wiki can become more community-driven. If you want to keep the icons in the bottom (i.e. Stores, Weapons, Survivors), I think that's a good idea, but they should be re-ordered. Let me know what you think. Nick Kohut 02:48, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Admin
Wow! Thank you, I'd love to be an admin. I'll do anything and everything I can to help improve this Wiki. Thanks so much! Nick Kohut 03:30, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Ads
There are two ads on the front page. How do we hide these or move them? Nick Kohut 05:47, October 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I guess you can't. Nick Kohut 05:48, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Photos
I was thinking of taking pictures of the clothes. Do you agree?

Vermicida47 12:45, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hello there Anno
Hey, Frank here. I responded on community central. Do you have Xbox LIVE? If so, we could communicate through there without the messages being able to be read by anyone else. If not, I could always try and find a chatroom of some sort. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:14, October 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * So I take it no XBL then? Anyways, I'll need a link to the IRC, and I'll probably be on somewhere between 6 and 9, central time. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:28, October 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Eh, I was never bothered by Xbox's layout. Seems fine to me. I don't really care for the talkback thing. What were you looking for on wikipedia that took five years? Must've been pretty damn important. Alright though, I'll start work on this whole fiasco/rebellion/effort thing tomorrow, starting with finding the arguments needed. Thanks so much for the help here. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 01:16, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Walkthrough
Hey I understand showing all of the content of the Walkthrough on one page, but can we possibly make that a separate page, like Dead_Rising_2_Walkthrough_Full, and on the main Walkthrough page, we just have the layout I sent you? If yes, I'll copy the code from the Walkthrough page now into a new one, and then go to work on the current Walkthrough page. Nick Kohut 21:52, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sure Have
I've seen the fanart. Too true. Anyway, my target wikis are: WoWWiki

Halopedia

WikiSimpsons

Wookiepedia

GuildWiki

Fallout Wiki

Grand Theft Wiki

Zelda Wiki

Quite a hefty list, I figure I'll only be able to get a few of 'em if I'm lucky. More updates in a bit, my school's about to block all websites for math time. See you in an hour. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 16:57, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, now I'm back. So I thought about telling Airhogs and TurtleShroom about this whole ordeal, but decided against and came to ask you: When should I involve them in this, if at all? Also, I've got some documents together that's the start of my argument summary, which I will write several and submit to you. Here are the other users' arguments which I'm going to draw out of: Mine: "the staff are just plain stupid. It's that simple. They're saying "stop being a bitch and use Oasis already, because fuck you". That's not how wikia has EVER worked, why have they suddenly decided that dictatorship is good? November 3rd is gonna be a bad day for everyone here, and if you haven't noticed, wikis are leaving. That means less money for you idiots, staff. One would think that you would learn after a couple days, but no, you guys just continue to push this... I never thought I'd see the day when a team of people could be so remarkably stupid. But you've pulled it off. People like Monaco, not Oasis. Nice job breaking it, heroes." - Myself For one, I apologize for that. Sannse already addressed this comment by saying: "Frank, that’s enough. You’ve had your say, but you are getting increasingly abusive and less and less constructive. Please tone down your language, and don’t post if you are only intending to shout abuse. Thanks." BUT, I also commented afterwards with: "You see? the staff are only responding to: A)"This skin is great! Something something improvement!" Or B)"You guys suck/insults to the staff" I'm only proving a point by saying this, and as expected, I was replied to because I was being rude." -Myself Point proven. That comment was an experiment, and it sure as hell worked. Basilmemories: You know what? I listened to your reasons why you're keeping the fixed-width settings and why you're going with the "industry-standard" video ad size as a reason to have a bloated sidebar. In earlier posts I gave positive and negative feedback, but you only brushed over the negative and didn't respond to any attempt at a meaningful back and forth conversation. So since playing nicey-nice Doesn't get jack out of you guys, here's the blunt, rude version.

Your excuse that you "have" to have the ads that big? Is a total crock. Considering that I do work in graphic design and have friends who talk about their jobs in marketing and advertising I know for a fact that you can talk an ad company into working around YOUR template. You wanna know this ground-shattering miracle of a secret?

YOU TELL THEM THAT OTHERWISE YOUR USERBASE WILL GO DOWN. How hard is that? Did you know that when ad folks hear that they become much more tractable? Why? Because they want freakin money! If there aren't people who click through to the ads or watch them, then they're not making money. It's a simple process. In addition video ads are known to DRIVE AWAY CUSTOMERS. I know I'm capslocking here, but I can't find the wiki code to make my text sprout freakin' neon lights and arrows pointing to the important parts. If I did, then I bet over half the userbase would have already been using it.

So there's your great answer from the mouths of ad teams and designers: Stick with text/silent flash ads, and talk to the people who want to use your adspace. Congratulations, now you can fix the overly huge sidebar, and take that load of tripe out of the TOS about modifying the interface. Oh yes, and one more thing...

AND GET RID OF THE EFFING FLOATING FOOTER

Alquen: So, as I promised earlier, here are my thoughts, which are independent and haven't been influenced by other's opinion. Sannse was so kind, that she tried to prove me, that our old Wiki designs can be totally adapted in the new look. But she achieved a completly opposing result. She didn't make me calm, in fact I became worried. Look at my Wiki's current design: [1] And how it can be "adapted" in the new look: [2] Where's the feeling? The feeling, that you're in Narnia. The colours, the patterns… I know, and Sannse told me as well, that this is just a quick sketch, but I think my Wiki will never look the same, the same Narnian in this "new thing". Except if I work another 1-2 months on its design…

This stupid Wikia strip on the top of the page is still meaningless. It looks like it's part of the wiki, but in fact it has nothing to do with Narnia, so I could already place a "Non-Narnian-Article" template in this strip… if it'd be possible of course… :P The small icons thrown disorderly in the page create a real chaos feeling. I don't really think this would attract more new editors to the Wikis. Do you? The main navigation menu (what's task is to be always easily visible and available, to help the contributor's navigation on the site) is nearly disappearing in this new skin, as it is put between the very-very important and great Wikia strip + the white Google-ad and the main content. The whole site is in one great box, the feeling of chaos grows even bigger. I couldn't really find the special menu, which in Monaco was beneath the main menu. Where it is?! And many-many other disadvantages of this new look… which could be the subject of complaint from other users… At this point I want to state, that I'm not a member of this AWA or whatever, although I really liked their declaration of independence, but only as a poet and writer. :) But I totally disagree with them, because I think that's the worst way to solve the problem. In fact they don't want to solve this problem, they're just running away. Susan Taylor: "We all have the same goals -- we want your wiki to be amazing. We want to show off the work you've done, point people towards the freshest and most exciting content, and encourage new contributors to share their knowledge." But you won't show off the work we've done, if you simply erase Monaco, the skin most of our Wiki's design is built on. And you don't only erase the Monaco, but all the work we had with it. It's very nice that you want to attract more new users to Wikia, but you don't see that while you're working on that, you lose many veteran users, who's fulltime hobby was working on their Wiki. You have to understand that you do not have to make a compromise among members of the Staff, but you do have to make a compromise between the Staff and the users, who are the consumers of the product Wikia! Because Wikia is for them, for the users, who spend many hours working on a project, on an article, on a design! I don't say, that the work and the devotion of the Staff isn't important. I think Wikia is a coin. A coin, that has two sides: the Staff and the users. And if that coin falls on one of its sides, it will be bad for the other side. So the best solution is when the coin falls on its edge, when both side is visible and equal! I don't want the Staff to throw all their work, time, energy and devotion spent on the new look out of the window. I just want you to let us to tell our opinion, and to count that opinion in your decisions, because they affect the users work as well! We also spend many time on our Wikis, and I think you can imagine what it feels like to work on a workplace where you don't feel yourself whole. Just imagine how bad it can be to work for example as a secretary, when all your childhood you've dreamed about becoming a balletdancer. Or whatever… :) Please, listen to us, before it's too late. Maybe you think, that if some Wikis leave the Wikia-network it's not a significant loss. But it is! Every leaving Wiki is a loss, like every man who dies, or every leaf that falls from a tree. I'm sure that there could be an agreement, which is beneficial and satisfying for both the Staff and the users. For example: we would accept the new skin, but you would fulfill some of our requests, that have been asked already by many users. So it means you would make changes, that would make us satisfied. Or another option is that we again accept the new skin, but you'd promise to create a sister/brother-skin (as Monaco and Monobook) in the next months, which reflects the layout of our beloved Monaco (the left-sided navigation menu and the article are in separate "boxes", just like the Wikia strip, and so on…), but already is modernized. Or any other option both accepted by the Staff and the users. The most important is to make an agreement, to make peace and to declare that in the future we'll work on the Wiki all together. Thanks for reading my opinion, I hope it will be useful.

Alquen, a Wikia user

TurtleShroom: (there will probably be more from him) All right, to refute Sannse's belief that I am a spammer, here's a legitimate, honest-to-goodness question:

Staff: Why are you exempting Uncyclopedia from your punishment? You should force them to use Oasis just like everybody else. Don't play favorites if you want to assimilate and make transitioning easier. Just because it is a "parody" of Wikipedia, doesn't mean it deserves special treatment. If all communities are equally important, and if all communities "need" Oasis, and if you want to eliminate all confusion when going from wiki to wiki, as you so claim, you can't play favorites just because you like Uncyclopedia better than the rest of us. So please, don't be hypocritical. Uncyclopedia needs to assimilate into Oasis just as much as everyone else. Saying that it is a parody of Wikipedia is not an excuse to play favorites. You should have a more legitimate reason than that. Do not say that it'll mess up the site; everyone else has already said that. Do not say it'll damage infoboxes, because all of us are going to be hit with that, too.

Just answer the question: why does Uncyclopedia get special treatment?

Gboyer: This was a discussion I had with Angela Beesley (Wikia Founder) in 2007 before Grand Theft Wiki moved to Wikia:

ME: As for Wikia adverts, I understand that this is central to your business and so I wouldn't prevent that. As on WoWWiki, the advertisements aren't brazenly plastered around every pixel of space. Although I never run adverts on my own sites (something about ethics...), so long as they don't detract from the experience of using the Wiki, then I have no qualms with their use. ANGELA: Hopefully you won't find them obtrusive. The new skins were designed to keep the ads away from the content, especially for logged in users where there is just one small ad in the top corner. This is just another proof of the breach of trust we have seen from Wikia. They are not keeping the ads away from the content at all, and they are very obtrusive - especially on the new thinner layout. Logged in users see more than one advert, and it does detract significantly from the experience of using the wiki. Gboyers talk 22:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's the arguments I've got right now, I'm still scrolling through blog comments, petitions, and the like. I've found some of the Oasis discussion pages on the target wikis, but I haven't done anything with them. Just bookmarked. Anyway any advice from this yet? I'm gonna continue to work for probably most of the rest of today, and the rest of the coming weeks. My only doubt is the time limit I've got on this. I've got about two weeks, MAYBE. Shiiiiiit. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 18:30, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, let them know. What do you think about the target wikis? Any suggestions on what to change with that? Also got a couple more comments that were good:

TurtleShroom Again FINALLY, you responded to the vast majoprity of your base! ...with excuses!

Monaco is too expensive to maintain? That's one of the things you managed to muster?

Boo hoo; it's a shame that you'll have to cut into your profits to satisfy the very people that make those profits. Is it true that you, as a for-profit company, are pulling in cash, right?[1] To me, ten thousand or fifty thousand dollars is more than many make in a year. To you corporate moguls, that's chump change! If Monaco is so expensive, why not cut some salaries?

I bet you're paid a pretty penny, and I am CERTAIN you can live without a few thousand, am I right? Money isn't as tight for you as it is for the common man. I'm sure CEO Gil Penchina can spare some of his millions for his site. He used to run stinking EBay, after all!

Many wikis like to remain independent. They spend many hours customizing their MediaWiki console to tailor it to their COMMUNITY, and honestly, the Transformers Wiki doesn't care if a Muppets Wiki user comes to them and has trouble with their default skin. They can set their own skin in the Preferences section.

You are compromising the relative sovereignity and independance of every wiki in an attempt to please your advertisers. We don't want a "sleek" new skin, we want a practical, usable, customizable skin that can be tailored to each community. Assimilating each and every user and forcing every man under the villanious thumb of Oasis (or, as one man called it, Pitcher Plant), really eliminates the purpose of "community" in each wiki. We ALL customize our databases for OUR community.

Also, your worst argument was regarding the Muppets Wiki. You didn't like that some infidel test group thought it was made by NBC. I respond to that with this, as follows: WHO CARES?!

Most of us are not here for glory. We are here to build communities and teach the Masses, or to write stories and have fun amongst friends. We don't NEED our images attributed on every page. We can attribute them by telling others on the Shout Box and talk pages (Hey, look what I uploaded on...). The Recent Changes and Upload Log does that as well.

Once upon a time, I was tempted to ask certain independent Wikis to merge into Wikia for the sake of integration. I will now do the opposite, urging anyone who is able to move OUT or find a DIFFERENT wiki host. I look towards the brighter future of Bimserver and custom domains.

Wikia is dead to me, and I can't wait to see you lose your profits.[2] Maybe then you will learn. Maybe. I'm sorry, but I still think this is the wrong move. The last username left

The Slicer

I, personally, have to agree with the people that dislike this. This looks far too much like a blog site, which would be just fine if Wikia were a blog site. Wikia is a wiki, and I strongly believe that this supposedly more "user-friendly" interface doesn't belong here. I find this a completely unnecessary "improvement;" just because one is capable of making a new skin doesn't mean one should. Wikis are, at their hearts, encyclopedias, and even if it did have "the best possible user experience" (which it doesn't), it would still undermine Wikia's BASIC PURPOSE.

My opinion is presented below.

Pages are too small. The idea of sacrificing page space for a larger toolbar seems like a bad idea, as does that of putting the category list at the top. What is the need for that? Even less necessary, I think, is displaying the name of the last user to edit there. And (almost) the least necessary of all is putting the name of the user to upload an image under the file. Seriously? Why should we need that? The toolbar that follows you around. I despise those. My point of view is that you should only need to look at these things if you want to, not be forced to look at the buttons as you scroll down. Also, these buttons (Share, Follow) are not by any means the primary buttons used for EDITING. Instead, they're meant to bring out the "social" aspect of the site, which I am against. "Popular Blog Posts." Again, encouraging the "social" bit, not the "wiki" bit. It's not that I have anything against the blog posts (they've been very popular on my main wikis) but this seems a bit extreme. If you want to turn Wikia into a social networking site, just SAY so. Why on Earth would you WANT to look through a mandatory photo gallery on every page? The gallery widget is fine because it's not mandatory. But to look to the right and see a photo gallery that most definitely DOESN'T help with the article's content is just... GAAH... For what reason exactly has the "edit" button been replaced by a stapler? It's not like the average person needs an image to understand what the word "edit" means. COMMENTING TO ARTICLES. I very, very, very much have a problem with this. In the old days, talk pages were used to discuss how to improve the content of the articles. Commenting on pages like on social networking sites doesn't just encourage spam; spam is almost mandatory under these conditions. Overall, this is just another worthless way to attract "contributing" users, "contributing" being "contributing in exactly the way one isn't supposed to." I saw the Twilight wiki with the new skin and page comments enables, and the amount of spam is unbelievable. "Wiki Activity:" Basically the unbelievably useless My Home under a new name. Please explain how this is better than Recent Changes, or indeed helpful at all. I don't know of a single person that uses it on the wikis that I'm active on. The bar at the top... Why is it needed? Does it help in any way? NO. Does it waste space? YES. My final opinion: This looks like a blog site. This is not a blog site. This is a wiki. Perhaps you could let some blog site use this instead?

MikaelGrizzly

Sorry Susan, but I'm not going to believe a single word of what you say. You say you want to help us to make our wikis amazing, yet your completely destroy the ability to customize them. No, the Theme Designer with its "choose a preset and the colours for five options" is not a proper replacement.

And the sidebar? Lots of wikis (including three of mine) rely on a properly organized, easy to use sidebar for navigation. By forcing the New Look on us you ruin the entire navigation system for many wikis.

"We understand change is hard" - then why the hell force a revolution instead of a gradual evolution? If you really understood the community, you'd take the hint that the community does not want this skin. Or hell, maybe even collaborated with the community in creating a new skin, instead of behaving like every other money-hungry corporation.

Because that's all it's about, isn't it Susan? Money. Money for Wikia comes from content and the more control Wikia has over its content, the more money comes their way.

Good job at taking the Community out of Wikia. Really, good game.

Those are the arguments I've got since my last post here. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:24, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, found some more comments. I also left a new comment.

Mine

The new look is contradicting everything wikia has ever stood for. 1. Content is no longer priority. 2. Ads. Ads EVERYWHERE. 2. The sidebar being on the right, and being too huge. 3. The image attribution? Editors were NEVER supposed to sign articles, write on an article what they did; wikia is not a place to brag. 4. The whole place is turning into Facebook. wikia is not a social network, and shouldn't ever be.

I really hope the staff decide to AT LEAST, at the VERY LEAST compromise and make more stuff movable, customizable, and allow admins to edit EVERYONE'S wiki look. If they did that, literally HUNDREDS of the users here would be happy and accept the change willingly. It's a win-win! the staff still get their skin change, and the users get to make it more to their liking.

Is that really so much to ask?

B14

You really don't get it, do you? The problem is not the fact that Wikia is changing. Many people could accept that. The point is that this change is a change to the worse. Not only do you take away our space, you also take away our freedom to customize our style, and add features that are useless if not outright annoying - the image attribution is a perfect example. I myself could live with less space, but less freedom and a bunch of totally random, unexplained and useless features I can't turn off if I want to? HELL NO. This might be tyranny, but what separates an internet tyranny from a real life tyranny is that in the internet, I can just leave your tyrannical rule and find a new wiki host. You really think a bunch of wikis leaving won't effect Wikia at all? It actually lessens the visibility of all your pretty ads, when users move away to other wiki hosts. Where's your money then?

Bluestarultor

I come from Final Fantasy Wiki. I have to say this: 660 pixels of width is just not enough. That space limitation is simply incompatible with many of our tables. We have too much information in them, none of which can be cut out without sacrificing vital info.

Now, really, I can get the argument that you want wikis to look the same for everyone. It's not unreasonable. What is unreasonable is that the sidebar takes up far too much space. 1000px is a generous amount of content space and would be great for most articles on its own. Losing a third of it just for a dedicated place to put ads causes more problems than it solves.

Now, there are alternatives. Things don't need to go away. They just need to free up space.

So here's my solution: 1. Floating ads are no worse than normal images. They don't NEED a sidebar. I will come right out and say that I'd prefer a floating ad to having a sidebar dominating what should be the content area. Content on a wiki should be king. Floating ads allow that to remain the case. 2. The sidebar doesn't have to go completely. It's a simple matter of writing an OnMouseOver to extend it in Javascript. Or, if you want to save on resources, simply make an option to collapse and return it with a click event. The articles need not even have the full run of the 1000px you've allotted to the page. Even 800 would grant a precious two inches more. The sidebar could be as small as only 100 pixels wide without losing vital info. That's standard avatar width on most forums. You can do a lot with that. If it's not enough, even 150px while collapsed would be a Godsend for wikis like Final Fantasy's. 3. A hybrid approach is possible. If you need to, you can create a content pane specifically to hold ads and then allow the sidebar to be collapsed.

This issue really boils down to choice. I'm asking you to consider allowing us the choice of the sidebar taking up a third of the fixed space. More choice is always better, and there are elegant solutions that could make everyone happy, or at least happier. The code to allow for this isn't that complex. I'm a developer myself. I've done this kind of thing. The sidebar doesn't need to go away. It just needs a way of getting smaller. The overhead for this would be minimal. Please consider this.

LordTBT "The truth is, we can’t afford to keep Monaco as a skin option. It’s a complex, sophisticated skin that requires more resources to run correctly, and would multiply the work of the technical and community teams. Having multiple skins also creates an inconsistent experience across Wikia, and we want to help people move around the site and feel comfortable contributing to every wiki."

If you can't afford it, please explain why you invested resources into it earlier this year with theme and speed upgrades. How was that a good use of time and money?

"Veteran wiki editors know how annoying it can be when you discover that the page that you thought was designed so well turns out to have huge empty spaces."

Huge empty spaces? Have you looked at the new skin? It screams huge empty spaces.

"In order to attract advertisers to our site, we need to have a 300x250 ad near the top of the page -- this is a standard ad unit that we can’t do without. Until now, we’ve floated that ad inside the content space -- a compromise that nobody was happy with. That ad interrupts the flow of the content, and it causes unexpected collisions. We needed to solve that problem, too. We investigated a lot of different options -- and in the end, we found that the best choice was to set the sidebar width to 300 pixels."

Susan, 2 years ago it wasn't "near the top of the page." You are trying to rewrite Wikia history. It was "IN THE CONTENT AREA". This was not a "compromise" Wikia made with users, it was forced, much like the skin now. This was something non-negotiable because advertisers demanded it. So I'm really curious as to how all of a sudden, the advertisers are magically a-ok with no ads in their precious content area. Or would they have been ok with that 2 years ago? What is different now?

"We’re taking that even further by adding modules to showcase the latest photos, new pages, and leaving room for even more creativity in the future."

Stop using the buzzword photos. They're not photos. Second, these modules should be optional. Perhaps wikis don't want to "showcase" their images or blog posts. Perhaps wikis don't even make blog posts a large part of their community, and would rather not have them highlighted. And please don't use the word creativity when in the last blog post you announced a new Terms of Service which effectively has destroyed anyone's ability to do something creative on a wiki. LordTBT Again: So what you're saying is, admins aren't allowed to personalize wikis for their core audience.

"This is to protect the universal layout and functionality of every wiki on Wikia and ensure that users have access to all of the features available in the new design."

Why must all wikis have a "universal layout"?? This is totally against everything you guys have been saying over the years. A complete reversal of the let every wiki foster it's own community and style. Wikis used to be able to decide how their wiki should look, and what features are best for that. And Wikia staff used to care about that. But now I see you care more about advertisers and lawyers.

Guess what? Not every wiki wants a new image gallery. Nor do they want a latest blog post widget, when not all wikis revolve around blogs. Work with us Wikia, and you might win back a lot of folks who you have alienated.

1 month is not enough time for all the work this "new skin' needs. It needs more than bug fixes and you know it.

Since the new terms aren't clear, here's the diff for everyone: http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Terms_of_Use&diff=prev&oldid=5011

"You can still personalize your wiki with different colors and themes, add large, standout images to the wiki background, create styled templates and tables within the content area. There are plenty of ways to be creative! While these terms will limit what you can do to the overall layout, creativity is still an essential part of Wikia."

This is a hilarious joke. You just admitted you have severely limited every wiki with your new legalese, and then pretend like creativity matters. Don't do that. If creativity mattered, you wouldn't have just maimed us.

M1Shawhan

The reason people like Monaco is because of the ability and ways in which it can be changed. It gave people the freedom to do what they wanted to to their site. It made people that were simple editors into website gurus and allowed people to make their site the way that they wanted to. The problem that people have, truthfully, is not in the fact that you have the new skin or that "change is coming". The problem that editors mainly have is that the freedom they had and have become so used to is now going away (along with content space... which made no sense since this IS 99% of the site's purpose.) This reaction is what happens when you give people some freedom to do what they want and then pull in the reins while taking stuff away. Yes, there will still be a Wikia after this and people will probably like the look of the new skin, but the freedom is being taken away and that's what people are so upset about.

If you REALLY want to "appease the masses" you would offer up some changes that can be made or manipulated to the content or at least give up new products that can be added with this changeover. White-space is a black-eye for a wiki or any site and things that can either fill up that white-space (since you are not allowing us to via css) would make about 60% of the complaints stop. Allowing the users to code around other things or extend content space to the left/right would stop another 25%. The remaining people would be ticked off and probably argue anyway since it is change.

The rest of the issue people are having is that this is coming down (and believe me, I even feel this way) with a feeling of let's rush this out so we can fix things, but with a lack of a true goal or plan. That feeling, for me as well as the thousands of others that have commented, is the scary thing. If I felt like I knew what was really going on or at least felt that WIKIA knew what was really going on or being impacted by this, I would feel more confident in the change. While your blog above is probably the most truthful one so far, I think that you HAVING to put it up makes this and the blog simply feel forced. I hope Wikia is taking these comments to the table, as it seems you are beginning to since you posted this blog. Keep in mind that there will be MANY smaller wikis that will suffer due to the change since they probably have no idea it is even happening still. Just make sure to understand what I put above and PLEASE have support and staff to help out and answer questions and we will all adjust to the change a little smoother. Thanks for allowing me to post this (sorry so long).

Cavalier One Well, there you go. 100 odd comments, mostly negative. Really, this should be telling you all you need to know - the community does not want it. The community - y'know, the actual users who produce the very content you're trying to showcase. The community, who are the actual users of this skin. The community, who are going to have to adapt to this. This is who you should be catering for. We're the ones who have to use it. Give us something good to work with, and let us worry about the readers. I think we have enough experience in that regard. I understand the need to generate revenue and appease advertisers, but several of the items you have declared off limits to change in your new terms of service do nothing are ludicrous.

Specifically: "It’s not permitted to remove [...] blogs, and image attribution"

Several wikis I am on have blogs currently either disabled by community vote, or restricted to certain content. I echo Darth Culator's statement below that I will continue to enforce these rules. Foisting them on wikis that have chosen to not use them is against the will of the community.

As for image attribution ... well, where do I begin? Forcing us to have an "Added by X" that we can't remove? Well, thanks for ruining the articles. Some of us produce our articles as "in-universe" works, and adding that just completely ruins the feel of the article. It's distracting to say the least, and the fact that it includes the user avatar image makes it worse. Furthermore, I would question the possible legality of attributing an image that - in the case of the Harry Potter Wiki for instance - is copyrighted to Warner Bros to an individual user. Surely, this would not be allowed under the current image usage guidelines?

Lia Schiffer

"This has been a very useful process and we are still gathering feedback and bug reports from all testing groups"

Has it really? All I see is people hating and hating and complaining about the new look, about things that need to change about it and yet you INSIST on shoving it down our throats. Are you really gathering feedback? Are you even reading at least 1% of the comments you get on this New Look? NOBODY wants it because there are so many things that are wrong with it.

Sidebar size is crushing the articles. It gives priority to advertising other wikis, where it should give more importance to the CONTENT of the article. They look completely crammed and awful, I don't even want to think of those articles with tables, pictures infoboxes. This is killer for fuctionality and all for advertising. When did Wikia become a site for self Advertising is beyond me.

Showing the names of the editors anywhere on the article is the stupidest idea ever. But showing the name of the uploader of EVERY picture is simply wrong. It adds nothing to the articles, kills aesthetics, and let's not talk about users with long names, or names such as "jivkylflg". I don't even want to think about it.

I mentioned this in another blog, but I'm repeating it here I was under the delusional impression that Wikia was a Community, yet even if the Community shows a general disapproval for the Change, central Wiki isn't giving any solutions or propositions that will make this change more functional and likeable to the Community. It's a "Like it, good. Don't like it, Die" business that will end up messing up with most wikis. I've seen people from LOT of different wikis here to showcase their dislike for this New Look and Central isn't providing satisfactory answers or solutions to them.

You have to understand that we don't oppose change. We oppose the way you're giving us that change because it is not functional and it is totally against the Wiki concept in itself. Wikis are encyclopedias, Wikis are meant to gather information, they're about their articles, yet you're compartmentalizing articles to give more space for Ads. It's absolute nonsense.

That's what I got today. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:05, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

DeadRising Activity
The DeadRising wiki is technically the 5th most active wiki anywhere! On the statistics page we have 340 active users, which on http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Hub:Most_active_communities that link would be 5th place. We don't show up on it anywhere though for some reason. Maybe I'm missing something. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:46, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

That's because at most there are only 4 or 5 people who are actively using this wiki. The DeadRising has 340 active users constantly working on it, not us. If we had more attention/traffic, we would show up on that list. If you look at our Special:ListUsers page, we've had barely over 20 users ever. Nick Kohut 05:14, October 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know that. I was just saying, because that's a proud moment for me. I am a bureaucrat at deadrising so I'm proud. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 11:49, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * As you rightfully should be. Congratulations Mr. Frank West. Anno1404 11:53, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you have to apply to be on that list. Nick Kohut 13:20, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Character Pictures
Hey I know you spent a lot of time on the character pictures and they're great. But could we use them as head shots on the charts? I think at least for the main characters, if we used high-res renders or concept art, that they would look a lot better. Also this would be a more accurate representation of the character. Nick Kohut 05:11, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * on the charts they will remain headshots, on the templates the will be smaller pictures, like on win some lose some. Anno1404 05:13, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Counter
I do not give katey zombrex, fail the cases and missions, and go to the safe house and then leave.

Vermicida47 18:17, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Images
When i go to the shaved head, redirects to a page of dead rising 1.

Yes, don't save the survivors.

Vermicida47 18:44, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Replies
Alright, we should contact them. Let's incorporate several of the points in the arguments and comments I posted here on the PtC page. We'll also contact the founders and probably tell them mostly what we're doing. Contacting ShoutWiki and doing what you said is a fantastic idea. I'll approach and talk to anyone you need me to, just link me to who I need to speak with. So, to summarize: 1. We'll contact everyone you said, except anyone you don't want me to. 2. We'll incorporate the comment's I put here into the PtC page. 3. We will also contact ShoutWiki. 4. I need you to link me to everyone we need to contact at this point. 5. When will we bring the argument to the target wikis? I assume after this whole thing is set up and we have contacted all we need to.

You are immensely helpful and I sure as hell would not be able to do any of this without you. I simply can't figure out how to thank you enough. Anything else except that one thing you need me to do, I'll do it. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:36, October 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * There. =) http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:44, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * funny. Anno1404 19:53, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. I'll contact them tomorrow, school's almost out for me and I've got a bunch of crap to do when I get home. Again thank you. http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png <font color="Blue">Frank - <font color= "Blue">West  http://images.wikia.com/deadrising/images/3/36/P.png 19:56, October 7, 2010 (UTC)