User talk:1/archive3

Arena vic pic
Hey, could you get a better pic of this woman? File:Dead woman in Arena.jpg. I'm curious if she has a survivor-lookalike. May or may not be Jessica Howe, her hair looks a little different and her shoes are green instead of blue. And she's faced down. Thanks! I'm trying to fix up some survivor articles by re-adding the sections we agreed on. --Mistertrouble189 18:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Also saw your side comment on the forum about blue Tamara - answer is yes, if you don't mind! and might as well as the above woman too. you can do this in your spare time, no rush. Also added Kristen Harris in her blue robe to forum post. BTW, Sam B, another playable character has been released on Dead Island along with new screenies! --Mistertrouble189 20:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * sure. any pics you need, please put that on the list too.
 * File:Dead woman in Arena.jpg is confusing. At the beginning of the game, I did god mode when Chuck was still in the gym. I never saw this woman, and I took pictures of all dead victims. Maybe she spawns after the elevator scene?
 * If you can chat anytime this weekend, we can privately chat about how you can get pc version too, if you want. A 20:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Nice, glad you were able to find the woman (I guess she does appear after the elevator scene...she can be found by Pat and Jeremiah in the lobby (as you know now) and she's also the body that appears behind Skylar and his friend during the cutscene). And she has a name? Cool. Also, she is never featured anywhere else in the game! Interesting they created a whole model just to serve as a corpse (thought it was Jessica all this time). And you said you found others? Nice! I will probably be free Sunday or so, so we can chat then? Thanks for the pic request, it's always interesting to explore the small things, such as corpse attractors!

Sanaase responded
See http://deadrising.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:JoePlay. --Mistertrouble189 01:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Mercenaries
Nice mercenary pics. So I guess there are 7 types, but only 4 noticeable differences and that TK's associate shares the same model as the other thugs in the lobby. Cool stuff! Also, thanks for the up-close pic of Kerri and Dean(?). Cool stuff! Maybe there are more corpse attractors... --Mistertrouble189 06:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

RE:Helicopter pilots
Omg, that is so cool! Haha not only they have names, but notebook entries! That is very neat. Thanks for sharing =D Does this mean potentially every character in the game, named or not, have a notebook entry? So like Militia Men Victim, would he have a name or something? --Mistertrouble189 00:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Modding
So much to learn about modding but I can take it on =D Just need the game first! --Mistertrouble189 16:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Scrapped characters
Awesome find!!! Interesting there's a Looter notebook pic! And that the four people all have Dean Wayne's notebook entry...guess we'll never know who those characters actually are! But a cool find nevertheless...perhaps they are the names of the looters of the 4 pawnshops! Speculation. Also, so that cool mercenary with the gun straps - he was pilot then? Love the findings man. Also, did you get my email? --Mistertrouble189 05:34, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Aha! Sweet! So I was right =D That is a bizarre thing...a floating black balloon of Crystal haha. It looks like her (can sorta see the ruffles from the dress). The random skirt is out of place...isn't that Katey's skirt? (So her skirt has a name? haha) Such cool finds, glad you got them! You should try it. Sinister dark figure running after you armed with a chainsaw or a knife haha. Also, when you have time, could you take a pic of each shopkeeper looter behind his fence/barricade in their respective shops? Tis be a nice addition to several pages. Thanks. Good finds today! (I want this modding!) --Mistertrouble189 05:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have my home computer but not the PC version of DR2 -__- --Mistertrouble189 18:47, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

DR2 PC
So I am going home tomorrow and hopefully I can download DR2. Hopefully talk to you tomorrow. --Mistertrouble189 00:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Licensing
I've created the template, since it would probably be a good idea to give credit where it is due the old Wikia articles. Could probably do with a little re-wording and re-styling, but hopefully it is a step in the right direction. I've put it on the Hockey Mask page so you can see it in use. -OtherworldBob 10:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I get where you're coming from. Hyperlinks do seem to be strongly encouraged by the Wikia terms though. Still, either way and either location, I certainly wouldn't want to have to add that notice by hand to every forked page. I hope there is an AutoWikiBrower'esque solution possible! -OtherworldBob 14:45, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking good. Just one issue to address - I dug out one of those MagicWords to make the links more-or-less work, but since all these notices are going on Talk pages, then all the addresses point to Talk pages too. Is there a MagicWord subtlety that I'm missing that would fix that? -OtherworldBob 17:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think that works. Especially if we can link to the history "pre-move" as it were, or state the date that we branched off in the template as a reference for the time frame. Although we'd be straying very close to the "letter" of the requirement rather than the "spirit". Me being me, I'd add a "License" tab to all pages to list any license associated with that particular page and its images/videos etc. -OtherworldBob 17:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent point. 3000 identical links to the same home-page is daft. Good shout! -OtherworldBob 20:24, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Tabs
All content pages by default have a "Page" and a "Discussion" tab. My inkling would be add a "License" one in the middle. So you'd end up with for instance a "License:Archie" page. And on that page have any licensing declarations etc that relate to the Archie page's content. That is probably far too complex for our purposes though. Just one of those thoughts that floats through the vacuum of my head occasionally. -OtherworldBob 18:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Photos
They look awesome! Great job! Its finals week so I won't be active until after the weekend. --Mistertrouble189 19:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Marvin Horner
That is so cool! Such a nice find. I investigated the opening cutscene video and could not see any humans being attacked (besides Luke, Leah and the woman) in the distance or any bodies other than Barra and an employee. Is it possible to walk around in that setting in god mode during the outbreak? Zombies or no zombies? I guess the bodies are out of place and we can't see them? Or are they actual survivors spawned? --Mistertrouble189 06:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Victims
Ah, right. Fair play. Rule #6 of my first Web Design classes was "textual links shall be blue". I see a coloured link and get all cranky. -OtherworldBob 19:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Background highlight would work for me. Would need to be subtle though, as the grey is, otherwise you'll end up with this: Chuck Greene, which is so much worse! -OtherworldBob 16:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers
In the past (on DRWikia) we had the spoiler marks on pages for major story stuff, like major characters and cases. In my experience some users will always complain about not being warned about spoilers despite them reading a wiki. It helps keep that down if we use spoiler tags on the pages like Frank West, pages that people would read and hit a spoiler if they weren't warned. If you would like to remove the tags, I'm all for it, but I bet there are people who want them to stay. Jax - Kenobi   12:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I am for removing the tags. I mean, if you come here, you're gonna find spoilers so you gotta be careful. If we want, we can implement a different kind of spoiler warning at the top of the page, smaller and not like the current one (never liked it). But I'm for removing them. --Mistertrouble189 21:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * As long as everyone is okay. A 00:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Photos
Those photos are amazing! Haha thank you for uploading them all! The busts for Regina and Alicia look really nice too! Great work. Concerning that map of Texas picture, feel free to replace it, I got that off Youtube as a screenshot. Keep up the good work. --Mistertrouble189 21:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Character pics?
Haven't forgotten about those that need a pic right? =D

http://deadrisingwiki.com/wiki/Special:AWCforum/st/id75/Character_Pic_Request_forum.html --Mistertrouble189 02:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

to add
dead rising Blamblow.png dead rising Blazing Aces.png dead rising Blazing Aces 2.png dead rising C-4.png dead rising Chemicals.png dead rising Chili.png dead rising Cooklies (Dead Rising 2).png dead rising Drink Cocktail 2.png dead rising Fish.png dead rising Flaming Gloves.png dead rising Flaming Gloves 3.png dead rising flaming gloves no body.jpg dead rising Fries.png dead rising Hazard Unit.png dead rising Hot Plate.png dead rising Hot Plate 2.png dead rising Human Heart.png dead rising Industrial Cart.png dead rising Katana Sword (Case West).png dead rising Lab Specimen.png dead rising Large Fern Tree.png dead rising Liquid Nitrogen.png dead rising Mad Scientist Hair.png dead rising Nerd Glasses.png dead rising Onion Rings.png dead rising Plastic Chair.png dead rising Security Cart.png dead rising Segway.png dead rising Sickle (Case West).png dead rising Sports Car.png dead rising sports car license.jpg dead rising Stretcher.png dead rising Sushi.png dead rising Syringe Gun.png

The Tables
Aye, show what me what you have in mind. I am open to changes as I feel the tables can be done a little better! (Esp for survivors, etc.) --Mistertrouble189 20:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I can't tell any obvious differences between Denyce's entry and the others! & I like the e thing...as long as it's not in the way and obnoxious...it should be small & "behind the scenes". I would like the "e" better than the "edit this template" thing that I saw on some of the tables from dead-rising.wikia. Overall, I think it's pretty neat! --Mistertrouble189 23:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

"Royce" dying at 7pm scene
Duh! You didn't know that? I always knew the man in DR2 who died at the 7pm cutscene was Royce =D They share exact model. However, what I did not know was that in CZ, the guy was supposed to be a model of Royce. They looked alike, but were different! Dark shoes, buttoned up shirt (all the way), no shades. But interesting find, I'll add how the guy in CZ is "Royce" to the page. Nice work. You wouldn't supposed you could get a standard body shot of the CZ victim!? lol --Mistertrouble189 18:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Linette picture
It seems her lower portion of her bikini was ripped to shreds... --Mistertrouble189 19:32, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Unseen Characters
Hey Anno, I made infoboxes for the TiR commentators, Josh, and Kazmina. I wanted the bottom of the box to say just Unseen Characters, but Dead Rising appears before it. Is there a way to remove it? If not, its all good. Thanks for your time. --Mistertrouble189 21:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead Island wiki
I think that would be pretty cool. We have time to whip it up into shape, while the news/information for the game is relatively low and the Wikia version of the site is messy. Up to you! Would be good start if you wanted to make one before E3 happens. --Mistertrouble189 19:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just read the link you posted in the forum - fell in love with the game all over again lol. The intro looks pretty good and im surprised that even the fighting and driving will be crazy realistic. the screens released looks good, the survivors too (i hope each and everyone has a individual mod...noticed the woman to the right on the safe house has zombie versions of her!) but all in all, its looking good and i support you if you start up a sister wiki! --Mistertrouble189 19:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Anno, I wouldn't know where to start setting up a Wiki. I haven't been paying much attention to Dead Island yet, was going to check it out closer to release. That said, I'll happily help out where I can. -OtherworldBob 17:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Dead Island Wiki
Hey Anno, I checked out deadislandwiki.com and it said MediaWiki was finished being installed. It says ya gotta set up the wiki and all (name, etc.) I'll leave it for you to do that. (though now when I try to click the link, it says permission denied...oh well, later then.) See ya soon. --Mistertrouble189 14:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, first gameplay video released! here. Your welcome! --Mistertrouble189 15:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hooray! Thank's so much! I am very excited to get this started! You can find me here. --Mistertrouble189 15:35, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Bobby&Roland
I deleted it because it is a cropped/duplicate of File:TiR-Contestants.jpg. --Mistertrouble189 18:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Double Wiki Vandal
Hi Anno,

I've just blocked an anonymous user from both Wikis for attempting to override the main page with jibberish. I expect more double Wiki vandalism will follow...oh well. -OtherworldBob 20:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

the cutscenes
The scenes of Sullivan escaping and Skylar killing the zombies - not in the original game. I'd love to see those cutscenes (and any other cut ones) --Mistertrouble189 04:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

=dead island emails=

Email idea and progress
I guess thats a potential plan. Should we see what others think about that? I started a to-do list on my page. Most are technical/skin/customization stuff that can be taken care of over the weekend and such. I am create character templates for some articles, though they are temporary until we can copy the formatting we use at the DR wiki (though change some of the lines, etc. in the infobox). So far, everything I had on my subpage has been transferred here. Did some redirects and small stuff. I have a potential wiki logo and a favicon idea. Also need the ref tags working (can wait). But an important thing... file uploads are disabled right now >.< --Mistertrouble189 17:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Logo and Favicon
Logo (we can prob come up with a new one later) is here. Favicon could be the guy thats hung in the words. --Mistertrouble189 04:34, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, when clicking the logo, can you have it set to redirect to Dead Island Wiki instead of Main Page? Thanks. --Mistertrouble189 19:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Logo updated, see file. Should be good enough. --Mistertrouble189 21:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * done.A 01:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Here's an idea for the Favicon --Mistertrouble189 21:30, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

RE:Copyright
Absolutely, we should get on that. --Mistertrouble189 17:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * -OtherworldBob 21:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Sitenotice recent images/changes
I copied the same sitenotice (with some adjustments) from DR wiki, but am unsure how to get it collapsable.. --Mistertrouble189 18:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I have it as a edit button on dead rising wiki. you can copy it if you like.

http://gyazo.com/6e304eee6539b133e7a48986533996a0.png

A 02:52, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Couple of Favicons to think of
One with the hanging zombie, one without. Tell me what you think. Jax-Kenobi 05:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Nice ideas. I see you spent some time on those favicons, and it shows. Great job. But too much detail in such a small area so it is hard to differentiate what is what. About three days ago Mister had me upload a favicon of the guy hung only. It never took, so I don't know what happened. I will need to look into it some more later.  As the person with the most edits by far here, Mister is the undisputed bossman. Present any of your awesome ideas to him, and if he wants to do it, I will do it.


 * Infinity mode will be released this weekend if all goes well. (Another editor and I figure out time travel yesterday).


 * This does not mean I will have vast amounts of time to spend on this site, as I have put off much funner editing pursuits for too long. but I will get the forum up and the chat box at least this week.


 * As I have offered multiple times, Other Bob is welcome to the keys to the castle if he wants to really fuck things up, but I understand is hesitation and aversion to the idea. A 13:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Of the those two, I prefer the one with the hangman more. Though if I could change them, I'd remove the Land/Sky border to regain a few precious pixels to add a little extra resolution to the tree and hangman. (The current one is Error 404ing!)
 * I'm a hesitant to delve into the innards of a live Wiki in part due to my lack of experience in the area, but also my love of forgetting to make back-ups of files I poke. If in the future I have the time to re-install XAMPP Lite and familiarise myself with all things Wiki, I'd be in a much better position to help out...rather than causing headaches. -OtherworldBob 15:31, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I like them Jax! I think we should go with the one with the hangman. But like OtherworldBob said, perhaps clean up the Land/Sky border? But looking good man! --Mistertrouble189 17:09, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's the cleaned up version: [[File:Deadislandfaviconedit.JPG]]
 * Better? Jax-Kenobi 04:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Loving it. This meets my standards! --Mistertrouble189 05:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * sounds good i will upload it this week, the other one didnt seem to take. A 22:06, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

dead-island.com
Got a message from a second Dead Island fansite wanting to talk about forum affiliation. Pretty cool that people are reaching out to us. --Mistertrouble189 21:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I saw that. nice job. I will be able to devote more time to this site shortly. I think people see all the wonderful work you have done. A 22:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Achievements
Hi Anno, Just a heads up: I've adapted the smaller Achievement template from the DR wiki for this one: Template:Achievement (Still needs Skinning!) I think it's more suitable to the smaller image sizes that typically accompany achievements. But I'd be happy to see an implementation of the standard Template:I used too since that'll help keep the pages more consistent. Just wanted to point out it was available in case you'd missed it while working on Infinity Mode! -OtherworldBob 21:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Pulling parts out of template:i would certainly make that type of page neater. Nice idea. -OtherworldBob 18:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Feeds
I see you added a feed extension...but I can't get it to work. I made a test page here, and tried lots of combinations of feeds, but never once got anything. Would you mind having a stab at it? Cheers! -OtherworldBob 21:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Dang, that's a shame. Maybe that extension is incompatible with this version of MediaWiki...time to try another extension perhaps? -OtherworldBob 19:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Awesome! I'm glad we are able to get it worked out! Is the deadislandforums.com apart of deadislandfans? I wasn't sure, I don't see the harm in featuring that too (after dead-island.com) though. Just got tons of new pics too about to upload ^^ also gotta scour the forums for new info. Cheers. --Mistertrouble189 16:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice one Anno, external feeds look to be working now...but our own Recent Changes feed is now busted. We can look at Special:RecentChanges fine, but Our Recent Changes Feed doesn't work any more. Any ideas? -OtherworldBob 18:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Recent Changes Feed works for me..I believe. And yeah I was slightly confused as to why we have deadislandforums on our feed...we agreed for Dead-Island.com's forums (which has more threads and Deep Silver members, and we can implement that then? If we want to keep the feed for DIF, we can put it at the bottom or something... --Mistertrouble189 21:35, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ^ I replied...again! -OtherworldBob 19:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice one Anno, our feed has been restored to glory over at: http://deadislandfans.com/ -OtherworldBob 16:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

=end dead island emails=

Busts
Hey Anno. I was wondering, if you're doing bust shots for all the characters, Any chance you'd let me use them for me mod I'm doing? Part of it is modifying the notebook images to correct the quality and consistency issues, plus it would help with characters I'm adding that don't have notebook images too. You'll be credited, of course. Dengarde 20:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I already made one with the Europa bust, and trust me, it looks FANTASTIC compared to the default notebook images. Take your time making them. I'm make them myself, but I'm not sure you you removed the background so perfectly. Thanks! Dengarde 21:09, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Image cull
Bit of deletion spree there Anno? Are you short on space again? -OtherworldBob 12:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Hello
Done, email confirmed. CrackLawliet 05:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Dead Island Wiki
Hi Anno,

If there are any extensions that only allow an Anon-Ip a certain amount of edits per minute/per hour, that might be worth installing. But given the large number of IPs that were being used, this vandal clearly wanted to do some damage, and I'm not sure there is a huge amount of automation that could protect against that. -OtherworldBob 17:27, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's continuing.... :( -OtherworldBob 17:29, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Captcha sounds good. Cheers, Anno. -OtherworldBob 20:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems to be working so far...touch wood. -OtherworldBob 09:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed we are. But both are generally acceptable in these parts from what I can tell. -OtherworldBob 14:47, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikia message
See this as well as response to your anti-Wikia message on my DI talk page. Let them be, they'll be screwed over or whatever at some point in the future. --Mistertrouble189 19:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Responded at my DI talk page. I agree, I am not looking for an affiliation with the Wikia wiki. I am happy with what we have, in addition to our partnerships. I declined their offer and am also open to copyright discussions. Also, Dead-Island and I are prepping to announce our partnership on the forums. I will continue to monitor them as they continue to copy our content and images. --Mistertrouble189 20:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

A few things
Thanks, got my edit bar working! Just like on Dead Rising Wiki. I am not a fan of watermarking at all...are there any other alternatives? Other should explain his idea a little bit more and we can see what we can do, especially once we gain the ability to create our own images.

You kept it civil and direct so I don't think anything needs to be removed on my talk page...maybe the anti-wikia message later in the future (though it's pretty much true). I noticed that they're discussing us on their wiki and perhaps wanted to merge and they want to speak to their admin. One user even wrote a message to JoePlay about us and told him we should merge. Lol. Publicity. ALSO, they've reverted my attention to the logo - which I've been meaning to replace. It's low quality and basically a cropped version of theres. Any ideas for a new one? --Mistertrouble189 16:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Video on DI
You give me an inch, and now I just want several more. (But I did convert my mode of speech into imperial measures for you!): Could you make this source code modification: Full Screen Youtube Button, reckon that'd be very useful to have. Thanks again! -OtherworldBob 18:03, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Added the DI Wiki's first Main Userspace video here. -OtherworldBob 20:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Off the Record change
I didn't see that actually, just stumbled upon the news during a bit of web wondering. As you may guess, I didn't wonder far! -OtherworldBob 20:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

TOO SEARCH
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault

Worth Playing wrote:


 * "The general theme for Off the Record seems to be that it's taking itself a great deal less seriously than the previous Dead Rising games ever did, with goofier weapons, more deliberate humor, and Frank getting exasperated at having to rescue survivors at all. It's pretty much a fan service expansion pack and a relatively cheap way to slaughter a few thousand more zombies."

2 things

 * 1) Pockets of spam on http://deadislandwiki.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges (ConfirmEdit needs install?)
 * 2) I have 3 Linodes now in Newark, they are amazing

Power to the People!

Thanks for the welcome
Hey Anno1404, it's great to see you too, and its great on what you and other editors have done with this wiki. I've returned here to try and help out in anyway I can, so if there's any ongoing projects or changes that needs help, please don't hesitate to tell me. I really wanna help out here, but there's not much to do since most of the articles here seem complete!

So if there's any help needed with projects, please, tell me. And thanks for welcoming me here (again). The Yoshiman 03:35, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I enjoy writing on what happens to a certain character, place, or game, but I already see that's basically done already until Off the Record comes out. I also am a Grammar Nazi; if I see one mistake, I'll go and fix it. I'm also moderately good with templates, and if I have a basis or "manual of style" guide, I can make sure that articles in a certain category will look alike in terms of format. The only real thing I'm against is helping out with tables or uploading images; admittedly, I suck at that. But hey, beggars can't be choosers, so if you have something I can do, I'll try my best. The Yoshiman 06:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I've also noticed something else. The Dead Rising Achievements, like Zombie Hunter and Bullet Point, for example, have different templates. If you give the preferred way on how to arrange the article, I'll be more than happy to help out with that. I can also work on a guide to get each achievement. Does that sound good, or is there something else more important, like the Case West weapons, that you want me to work on? The Yoshiman 17:00, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * please edit what you like best. i trust your judgment on what you decide to do. With one caveat, we are phasing out the old templates, like Zombie Hunter though, replacing them with the template:i, such as on Transmissionary and Vigilante Justice. With the template:i, if you need any added lines, any changes to the color or picture, let me know, and I can change them. Again, please edit what you like best. I suspect Jax would press the "random page" and work on pages that way. Whatever you like to do. Let me ask Mister and Other for what they think. A 17:42, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. I never got how that template worked, but if that's the standard for this wiki now, then I'm all for it. I'll go and start on editing that now. But one question: if we're using that template for all the pages, doesn't that make other pages like Template:Achievement and Template:DRAchievement sort of irrelevant? The Yoshiman 17:50, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm a "Random Pager" myself, though when I hit a page that needs editing, I usually follow a couple of links from there to try and catch related pages too. Personally, I quite like Template:Achievement, and gave a go at improving it a bit, see Template:Achievement/sandbox and Template:Achievement/testcases; but then, I like the border-radius CSS3 property, so what do I know! -OtherworldBob 18:09, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * yeah, whatever you guys prefer.


 * here is the coding of template:i on those pages, if you decide to use it:


 * the color line controls the template color at the top and bottom. This is controlled at template:color. Whatever word your type here appears behind Dead Rising on the bottom of the template. So if you type 2 Achievement, then the template at the bottom would say: Dead Rising 2 Achievement. If the word is not in template:color or the color line is missing, then the default color is light blue. Again, I can change the color if you like. Or add new words attached to colors.


 * image: add image here, without File:


 * notes: notes and reward


 * points: gamer points, you can add and  also, which creates  and


 * none: add "y" this makes the "edit this page" disappear"

Again your guys choose which one to use, template:i or template:achievement. I can add extra lines, or change several features to template:i if desired. A 20:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

I've decided to go with the template:achievement, it fits perfectly with the article pages, and we have the other template on almost all the other pages; it'd be a shame not to use the achievement template. I'm going with that and will get started right away. Also, I'm planning on making a walkthrough to get the achievement for potential achievement hunters, if that's okay with you. I won't add in a walkthrough unless I get the greenlight though. The Yoshiman 20:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * be bold. I am really laid back, just happy you are here. I like all your ideas. Please don't hesitate to make any changes or additions you want this is a wiki, you are an experienced, trusted editor, so go wild :) A 22:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Spam/Forum
New users being created but no spam :) So far so good! Thanks for the help. Appreciate it. Saw your message about the d-i forum. If you don't like it, you can always create a new forum, shouldn't hurt I guess. Bigger collection of info? Plus, maybe it would be good for our little circle of modders to use. --Mistertrouble189 02:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The new users aren't necessarily a problem, they just sit there after all. But they're almost certainly Spam Bots given the previous behaviour. I suppose you've already thought/tried it, but would an alternative CAPTCHA on Account Creation work? Can you see who is triggering the SPAM filter, and then ban them (and their IP Address perhaps) later manually, after verifying it was just a SPAM-bot? -OtherworldBob 17:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Dead Island - Collapsible Tables
Hi Anno, I think you broke Collapsible Tables over on DI. Or is my PC being odd? -OtherworldBob 18:44, 20 July 2011 (UTC)